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The Most Honest Conversation with Our Moms


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[00:00:00] Angela: Hey everyone. I’m Angela Lin

[00:00:01] Jesse: And I’m Jesse Lin. And welcome back to another episode of, but where are you really from this week? It is mother’s day weekend and wow. We just had a really interesting hour long conversation with our moms. And now we’re planning on recapping that conversation for you.

[00:00:21] Jesse: The episode’s gonna consist of basically this recap and that interview, which we did all in Mandarin was some shish thrown in. So if you’re able to listen to it, like and understand it, feel free. Go ahead. It’s very interesting. If you’re not, we hope this summary will pick your interest.

[00:00:37] Angela: Yes. And I’m just gonna throw this out there to hold myself accountable.

[00:00:40] Angela: I have high hopes. Subtitling the Chinese full interview in English and uploading that to YouTube, very ambitious endeavor. Um, so maybe it won’t happen, but I’m putting it out in the ether. So hopefully by the time you’re listening to this, if this. Keeps, if I keep this in the edit, it means that it exists.

[00:01:02] Angela: And I encourage all of you to watch the YouTube version of this episode, because then you can watch actually our mamas and us. Yes. And it’ll be subtitled in English. So you can all understand what’s

[00:01:12] Jesse: going on and you can tell us if we look like our parents are not half of our parents. Yeah, that’s true.

[00:01:17] Jesse: Yeah. Yes. Well, okay. So I found this was interesting. We kind of started very at the beginning as we do with any guest, which is kind of like get to know them, introduce themselves. And I felt like both of our parents went like way back. They’re like, I’m from Taiwan. Like my, you know, childhood, like. High school years, like young adult years kind of introduction, which is very interesting.

[00:01:43] Jesse: Cause I’m not sure if that’s like what they thought we were, what they thought we were looking for or like how they would actually introduce themselves to someone. But then again, like, like I feel like I’ve seen my parents introduce themselves to new people at temple and it’s never anything that’s like really detailed.

[00:02:00] Jesse: It’s kind of just like, oh, you know, my name is, this is this like, it’s nice to meet you. Like they don’t really. Much more in death.

[00:02:10] Angela: I think it was two things. I think it was like one, they were kind of primed on what we were looking for, not in that question, but like, because we told them what kind of stuff we would be talking about in this episode.

[00:02:20] Angela: So I think they were kind of like carp before the horse kind of situation. And they’re just like, let me just say hello you everything. Because I don’t know when you’re gonna be asking me these things. Yeah. And they’re not used to. Being interviewed. Yeah, yeah. Either. So then they’re just like, I don’t know, black.

[00:02:33] Angela: And then I think the other was like what you were saying in a previous, in our two year, um, anniversary episode where it’s just like every time. We talked to our parents, there is just like, there’s so much more that comes out than what we expect. So I think it was a little bit of both because definitely like, yes, your mom’s answer.

[00:02:51] Angela: Like, tell me about yourself was so much, I was like, whoa, but every question we asked, I would say, I think both our moms were like giving. A lot of detail. yeah. It’s a lot of detail. That’s a great

[00:03:03] Jesse: question. It’s like, it’s inter I don’t know if people ask, like, I don’t know if they get asked that at all.

[00:03:09] Jesse: It’s not, it’s kind of like the work icebreaker thing. Everyone’s used to that where it’s like, tell me about yourself and like three interesting facts. I don’t know if they have those kind of conversations. So then it’s. A little bit what you said, like, they’re like, oh wait, what do I say, blah, why don’t

[00:03:24] Angela: we talk about like, things that were most surprising or like, um, we didn’t know, because some things like we’ve heard some of those stories mm-hmm um, but like some of them, I was like, what?

[00:03:35] Angela: I didn’t know that. Or like, You didn’t know about my mom or I didn’t know about your mom, for example, you primed your mom on this monkey story. Yes. Y’all. Jesse’s mom grew up with a pet monkey, like among many other pets. And it was like such a bizarre situation because Jesse’s like, tell them about the monkey.

[00:03:54] Angela: And I was like, what is this thing? And then I asked her like, I’m sorry, is it normal to have a pet monkey? And like your, your village or just small town that you came from. And she said, She just doesn’t know, but they always had it when

[00:04:08] Jesse: I tell people that my family is like country bumpkin. Like I don’t think they quite understand what I mean by that.

[00:04:14] Jesse: And it’s very like hillbilly Taiwan kind of situation. Cuz I think our parents came from the same kind of. More rural background, but I, I feel like my parents are more hillbilly

[00:04:29] Angela: kinda well, because your parents are actually from like a different part of

[00:04:33] Jesse: Taiwan. Yeah. They’re like in a really rural

[00:04:35] Angela: part.

[00:04:36] Angela: Yeah, my mom kept saying they were also sh you know, like rural. Yeah, yeah. Like town or whatever. And that’s true. But she was still always part of like, TA pay kind of like boundaries. I guess the implication was just that like, back in the day, TA pay was not built up. So it was also like rural. Yeah. Um, where she.

[00:04:56] Angela: So

[00:04:57] Jesse: it’s a, I think it’s a different, different kind of level because there’s definitely a lot of like still rural areas outside of Taipei. But I remember like where, where my grandparents still live. It used to be extremely difficult to get to, like, it was like a 12 hour drive from Taipei and that it, like, it’s a small.

[00:05:17] Jesse: Island to drive to the middle of it for 12 hours is like ridiculous because there weren’t really great bridges. It was like mountainside roads. So you were just kinda like winding around, uh, forever. It’s changed a lot. Now. It’s much easier to get there, but back then it was like a rural and isolated, I think are the two.

[00:05:34] Jesse: Two things, but, uh, to your point, what did I, what, what, what did I not know? Well, first of all, your mom was very, um, boastful about her athletic prowess. She’s like, yeah, I was the number two long jumper and I was like, you better work bitch. She worked

[00:05:51] Angela: bitch. Yeah. I actually do remember. She used to show, she showed me at some point.

[00:05:56] Angela: Like pictures of her doing like mid, mid jump in track and stuff. So I did remember that, but it, it was kind of surprising that it like became such a like self that’s amazing theme of the conversation. Cuz she doesn’t like talked about that in a really long time and she like doesn’t exercise at all anymore.

[00:06:14] Angela: So I’m like, where did that go? yeah.

[00:06:17] Jesse: Wait. She’s like how she’s like not taller. Is she taller than you? You’re not.

[00:06:21] Angela: You’re taller than her. Well, She is no, she is taller than me because, and I got beef with them because of the fact that I’m shorter than both of them. No, she, but she’s not tall. She’s only five

[00:06:31] Jesse: one.

[00:06:31] Jesse: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s crazy. Unless everyone else must have been like a midget.

[00:06:36] Angela: Okay. TBH though. I’m really good at jumping. Um, because actually I was just talking about this with someone else, which is a, a total, a different kind of jumping mm-hmm . Well, I did track as well in high school, but I didn’t do jumping, but we like tried it once and I.

[00:06:49] Angela: I wasn’t bad, but, um, in CrossFit there’s like a sort of jumping where you’re jumping vertically up. Mm-hmm like, you, you have like boxes that you jump on. And there were like, there would be once in a while where they’d like, do a like box jump challenge and they’d like stack ’em higher and higher and you add like more things and, and you’re like gauging by like the number of inches above the ground you’re jumping.

[00:07:12] Angela: And like, I remember I was able to jump like a pretty fucking guy, especially. How short I am. so maybe I, uh, I got some of her jumping jeans. I don’t

[00:07:20] Jesse: actually know the body type for long jumpers. Is it like gymnast where it’s like sh you know, short and compact muscle? I

[00:07:27] Angela: have idea. I mean, that doesn’t make sense to me in like, uh, just like envisioning it, because I would imagine having long legs just means you can jump farther because your leg span is just like,

[00:07:38] Jesse: maybe in any case, um, other surprising things.

[00:07:42] Jesse: What did you want? She said she also inherited, like, being good at cooking.

[00:07:46] Angela: No, no, no. She said that she’s just okay. At cooking. Oh, okay. But she inherited her singing skills. Oh yeah. That from my grandpa. See your mom sing. Oh, she loved to sing. That girl loved to sing. Um, you come back to Taiwan with us. She got a karaoke machine in her home.

[00:08:04] Angela: She loves to sing. She is good at singing. Okay. But she does this kind of like falsetto thing as her like main singing. It’s very Taiwanese. I would say like that era is Taiwanese kind of singing, but she’s good. She’s good at it. I guess I just didn’t know. Her dad was also good at singing cuz I didn’t know.

[00:08:21] Angela: My grandpa, he, like she mentioned, he already passed away. Um, by the time I was born so well.

[00:08:27] Jesse: On my mom’s side. I didn’t know that she didn’t, that she like moved here and then married my dad.

[00:08:34] Angela: Yeah. That was

[00:08:35] Jesse: surprising. I was like, wait,

[00:08:36] Angela: what? Yeah. You said previously that they were just like, they knew each other from the, the rural place that they grew up and just like.

[00:08:44] Angela: Decided to get married.

[00:08:45] Jesse: Yeah, she did say that, but my timeline is off because they didn’t get married. I don’t think they get married in Taiwan. They got married in the us

[00:08:54] Angela: apparent. Yeah. Y’all well, let’s backtrack. Both our parents, both our moms. We asked like, how did you meet dad? And like, what did you think about them?

[00:09:01] Angela: And they both were like, man, no impression.

[00:09:03] Jesse: They were like, I don’t remember anything from the first time that I met them. And I was like,

[00:09:08] Angela: Just like unimpressed, unimpressed. I think the reality is that like, we approached relationships very differently now in this generation than their generations, basically both of them met in like very similar fashions, which is just like, I was introduced to him by like friends or like coworkers, whatever.

[00:09:25] Angela: And there was no impression because they just like. That’s how they met them, was not with the intent of marrying them or dating them. It was just like, we got introduced to like know each other and then it was basically like, well, you it’s around the time to get married. Like these are the people, you know, and like, he’s fine.

[00:09:43] Angela: So like, here

[00:09:43] Jesse: we go. And what was interesting is that like, my mom did at least admit like the forces of attraction are the same. She’s basically saying like, you look at the person and you’re like, are they attractive? Do you have a good job? So it’s not like that crazy, but it’s just like, they have much less options than we do now.

[00:10:01] Angela: And we didn’t know that both our moms wanted to work in broadcasting of some sort as their like dreamed of my mom wanted

[00:10:09] Jesse: to be a tour guide.

[00:10:10] Angela: Oh, a tour. Oh, sorry. I got

[00:10:12] Jesse: confused. Your mom wanted to be a broadcast

[00:10:14] Angela: writer. I’m very confused. She said director, but I don’t know that’s what that is. But anyway, she wanted to work in like a television station, TV station, which I didn’t.

[00:10:25] Angela: I was like, we are running too long. I cannot plug this in now, but I was like, oh, isn’t it ironic that then your daughter worked in TV later? Cuz I did. I did work in TV when I was in New York. But yeah, I, I didn’t know. Your mom wanted, yeah. Your mom sounds like she really wants to travel. I feel like you gotta just like throw her some cash so that she can like go traveling.

[00:10:44] Jesse: Well, the things that she doesn’t like leaving my dad alone, that’s, that’s the main thing it’s otherwise she would definitely go back to Taiwan for, even with the quarantine, but she doesn’t wanna leave him alone for like a two long period of time. But, um, no. Yeah. I’ve like offer. I mean, like I might offer a serious I’m stuff.

[00:11:01] Jesse: Spacious. Yeah. Um, like she went on a, she went on a tour a few years ago to Austria Switzer or something. I paid for that bitch. I’m not, I’m not bitch. I’m hung.

[00:11:16] Angela: Yeah. I wonder if it was the same one my parents want, like, I know they didn’t go at the same time, but like, they literally did that same trip, like Austria and like

[00:11:25] Jesse: random shit.

[00:11:25] Jesse: Yeah. It was really funny because my mom was like, I’m going on a Taiwanese tour with your aunts. So my aunts also went it. Was very bizarre because she went on a tour from a completely different country coming from us. Mm-hmm to visit a completely different country. That’s

[00:11:40] Angela: what, that’s what my parents do.

[00:11:42] Angela: Yeah. That’s what I mean by Chinese bus tours. It’s always run by Taiwanese people, but I just call it

the

[00:11:45] Jesse: Chinese bus tour. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think the main, main concern about. Sponsoring them to go somewhere is just that they kind of need to be chap owned at this point. So you have to find someone that will kind of like safely take them to certain places.

[00:11:59] Jesse: Although, like, I don’t think my parents are as helpless as they like paint themselves to be. Cuz they’re always like, we don’t know what to do. We don’t know, you know where to go, what to see. I’m like, I don’t, I don’t know. I think. To figure it out. Like I left them alone for a day here in the city and

[00:12:12] Angela: they were fine.

[00:12:13] Angela: My parents liked to be shuttled around, but my dad likes to have freedom. Like, because with our whole wedding trip, we’d like showed them around Spain and we’d like, did the whole thing. Like, they didn’t have to think about anything and we just like planned it all. But my dad likes to walk, so he’d just be like, okay, peace out.

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[00:12:58] Angela: And if you feel so inclined, we’re also accepting donations@buymeacoffee.com slash where are you from? Thanks. Y’all. What else? My mom, um, I did not know. First of all, I did not know that I knew that she did night school, but I thought that was just, I didn’t know. That was like so much of her education. I didn’t know.

[00:13:18] Angela: That

[00:13:18] Jesse: was like a

[00:13:18] Angela: system. It’s like a thing. Yeah. So it. Apparently we learned that there is both night, school and day school for high school and college. Yes. Um, or I don’t know if she also is in middle school, but like, it’s like a thing that like the school system can be broken up into day and night shifts.

[00:13:36] Angela: And the night school’s like five to 10:00 PM. So she said she would like take the train because she didn’t live in the exact city where the school was. She would like take the train. and walk half an hour after getting off the train to get to the school and then do that same thing on the way back, even though class ended at 10 and I was like, isn’t that like sketchy?

[00:13:54] Angela: And she was like, no,

[00:13:55] Jesse: it’s stupid different times, man, different times. Uh, she also said that night night school was for students with like slightly lower. Scoring entry exams. I’m like, take me to the, I hate, I hated going to school early in the morning, night school for me.

[00:14:08] Angela: Nah, , I’ll take that normal school.

[00:14:11] Angela: given that normal school

[00:14:13] Jesse: night school for me. Um, I’m trying to think what else they mentioned. I, I do remember cuz my, my mom, um, has talked about her parents before, but I love it every time when she’s like, when she. Us that or tells me that the roles are reversed. So like, normally it’s like in a traditional Asian family, like the dad is a disciplinarian and the mom is kind of like the more relaxed individual.

[00:14:37] Jesse: And she is like, that’s not my experience at all. Like your grandfather was like really chill. And your grandmother was the one that like wore the pants and the relationship. But

[00:14:45] Angela: I don’t understand how that’s the traditional setup because at least like our. Upbringing the like tiger mom stereotype is what it was.

[00:14:54] Angela: Yeah. So that implies that mom was always the strict one.

[00:14:57] Jesse: I think the tiger mom thing is like a newish thing. I feel like it’s always been like the dad, like my, my parents, like my dad’s more so the disciplinarian and my mom’s more so like the. The chill one,

[00:15:13] Angela: not in this family, reverse for you, like comparing and contrasting our mom.

[00:15:19] Angela: Something that surprised me was like, when we were asking like, uh, about their immigration story and that experience very D very I, yeah, super different. And like, honestly, I was kind of expecting. Both of them to be more like your mom, where she was very open and honest with us, basically like being really lonely when she first moved here and like, not understanding the language.

[00:15:38] Angela: I think she, her analogy was like, I felt like I was like both deaf and mute because I couldn’t understand anything. And like, she didn’t start feeling better about her situation until she had you and then had kind of like a purpose. Yeah. It was all you Baba. Whereas my mom was. Oh, no, I wasn’t lonely at all.

[00:15:56] Angela: I was like, oh, this is fine. And I mean, I didn’t think about it, but I guess it makes sense that she was like, because yeah, she already had my brother who was already like six or seven at the time. So she was, had her hands full with like raising him too much to be lonely. Um, and that makes sense as your mom said, that was the turning point for her when she started to get less.

[00:16:16] Angela: Lonely was when she had you. So

[00:16:19] Jesse: yeah, the timeline’s a little bit fuzzy for me as to like the immigration and then like when I was there, but I could imagine that’s the case because like, as she mentioned, you had to find a job and then you just kind of had to do whatever you could with the language skills that you had.

[00:16:34] Jesse: And it’s more than likely, like, I’m just thinking. My dad’s family and how I know all of them, almost everyone was probably working. So it wasn’t like you had a chance to just like, hang out with somebody and like acclimate. So it probably was like a really lonely experience because she probably didn’t have it.

[00:16:49] Jesse: She didn’t really have anything to do. Yeah, I know we talked to, which would be really, really, really isolating. Yeah.

[00:16:56] Angela: Yeah. So definitely like props to all the immigrant mamas. Yeah. Who made that journey? Even if my mom tried to make it sound like she didn’t have,

[00:17:04] Jesse: I’m sure she did, you know? Yeah. But it’s kind of like the whole, like I was gonna say like the, no, um, no impression of our dads, like ask me again in like 30 years, if I had impression of my partner at that point, and I might be like, Yeah, cuz you just like, you’re just like older and like maybe you just literally don’t remember.

[00:17:25] Jesse: And yeah, I also feel like the further away you are from like a trauma. The less traumatic it is for you. And you might look back on that period and be like, you know what? It was actually fine.

[00:17:36] Angela: I think there’s also a little bit of like trying to stay strong kind of thing, you know? Yeah. Like it’s still, it’s still not normal to like show your emotion and vulnerability.

[00:17:45] Angela: So I was because my mom’s whole thing was like the whole time. She was just like, no, I didn’t regret it at all because it was like the best for my children. And like that’s all that matters is like, yeah. Doing the best for them. And like, I don’t. That was a lie. I just think that maybe she’s like suppressing some actual feelings of like loneliness or sadness that she probably had it that, but were outweighed by this like sense of duty or whatever.

[00:18:10] Jesse: I do think it really shows how centered we are in our parents’ lives. Like you, it’s not a surprise because we are like the reason. At least for your, I think your mom has stated very clearly. Like you guys are like the reason that she, one of the big reasons that she came here, but to hear someone describe their hopes and dreams as your life is very different from just understand, like, hearing that tangentially through stories and pressure, like to hear someone actually say that your life is like why they did something.

[00:18:44] Jesse: It’s surprising because I don’t know if I would for anybody else, you know, because now it’s kind of like the whole judge is like, you gotta take care of yourself. Like not, not, not that you have to take care of yourself to be the point to the point where you’re like, Obsessively selfish, but like, you wouldn’t sacrifice your own self needs to service the self, uh, the needs of someone else.

[00:19:11] Jesse: Um, so it’s like a very different kind of like life perspective. Yeah,

[00:19:15] Angela: yeah, yeah. Which is probably why we’re constantly struggling with this whole, like, Am I living my life for me or for my parents thing, because they did give up so much for us. So it is, I mean, and it’s the struggle we’re dealing with constantly, which is like, I think we’ve come to terms with the fact that we do need to like value ourselves and what we want and like live our lives.

[00:19:38] Angela: But we can find other ways where we like give back to them and like, you know, show that gratitude without having to like give up everything that is us and our free will just. Pay that back to them. And

[00:19:51] Jesse: honestly, like the more that I talk to my parents, the more I’m like, why do you, why did you want me to live this like rigid life?

[00:19:57] Jesse: Because I’m living the life that I feel like you wanted to live the way that you Des you know, if you had the options, the means that’s what you would’ve wanted to be, what you wanted to do. Mm-hmm so I feel more and more so, as you mentioned, like less and less slaved to this like, idea of what. What I need to be in order to please my parents and more so vibing with the fact that I’m kind of living my life in accordance to maybe how they would have wanted to, if they had the means and the opportunity.

[00:20:29] Jesse: Which I think is like live your

[00:20:30] Angela: best life. Yeah. Yeah, no, that’s totally true because the kind of like recurring theme in a lot of the way that they answered are questions about like, what did you wanna do? And like, what did you actually do? And whatever. A lot of it just ended up being like, whatever gave me like the most stability and like, I just got whatever would.

[00:20:48] Angela: You know, make sure that I could function and like provide and blah, blah, blah. It was all center around this like stability theme. But we did ask them the, like the pipe dream stuff. And like you said, like they, they all had the dreams, same dreams. Yeah. Yeah. But TV, broadcaster, tour guide, like things that are a bit more whimsical and like not necessarily tied to the, just like traditional stability type jobs.

[00:21:11] Angela: Yeah. And to your point, it’s like, If we are past the point of stability, if we like already have stability for ourselves, why shouldn’t we shoot for the things that seem. A little bit more whimsical to like those kind of more stringent yeah. Viewpoints, if that is what they would’ve wanted to do anyway, if they had

[00:21:29] Jesse: stability.

[00:21:30] Jesse: Yeah, I agree. And at the same time, these conversations give us insight as to why they are so concerned with stability because they didn’t really have that. So it’s always this kind of like fear of you. Progeny falling back into where they came from. Although like, let’s be real. Like, I don’t think that that would ever happen.

[00:21:51] Jesse: Like even if I were working like a McDonald’s job, I think the quality of life would still be like significantly better than what they were describing. But yeah, it’s definitely eye opening. Like I, I think I mentioned to you, so I it’s just like crazy how much. Change that our parents have lived through.

[00:22:08] Jesse: Yeah. My mom

[00:22:08] Angela: talked about kids, not having shoes, going to school like that they normally wore, like, I don’t know, were barefoot or had little like yeah. Wooden thongs or whatever. Yeah. Well, I don’t wanna belabor this because we do have like the full interview with them that I hope. To subtitle, um, for the YouTube version.

[00:22:27] Angela: So let’s wrap it up with our fortune cookie recap of what their current hopes and dreams are. And gosh, a little bit about them before we sign off. Um, so moving into our sweet treat, uh, we basically ask our moms, like, what are your hopes and dreams now, um, that we heard earlier what your childhood ones were, but what about now as like adults and your.

[00:22:50] Angela: Planted firmly in the us and blah, blah. And what gave me hope was that even though like a lot of the initial conversation was sent around us and like providing for us both the ways that our par our mom’s answer was about kind of like them. I mean, I was like, partially in my mom’s answer, basically, my mom was like, oh, I want my kids to like, live near me so that we can spend time together.

[00:23:12] Angela: But then she also was like, and I wanna like go back to traveling with your dad, um, because they did that a lot. Before the pandemic. And that was like helpful for me, because I think she tends to be like a hermit. So it was actually like a like surprising thing to hear. And I’m glad she’s like expressed that because I do want her to like, get out more and like experience more things and like, you know, just live her best life.

[00:23:34] Angela: They’re my parents at least are retired. So like, they shouldn’t be held back if possible. So I was happy to hear her kind of like hope for something that was like for herself,

[00:23:44] Jesse: you. Yeah. Um, it’s funny because you, I we’ve, we’ve discussed this so many times where our parents are basically like flip flop personalities.

[00:23:51] Jesse: Like my dad maps to your mom and your dad maps to my mom in terms of like chillness and gregariousness. So like, I know my mom wants to travel. Like I know she wants to go places, but I also know that she really doesn’t like leaving my dad alone for too long by himself. And he’s the one that has. Is more hermit, like, and less likely to go somewhere.

[00:24:13] Jesse: So I’ve yet to crack exactly how to work that, but you know, like, no one’s gonna say no to a free trip. So it’s just about finding the right thing that will get. I’m interested. And, um, I think the good thing is like having more conversations, like this will get me closer to what that looks like, but yeah, my mom said the same thing is just like see her more.

[00:24:36] Jesse: And honestly, like with the current situation being. What it is. I probably can, especially if air, airplane tickets are like still not super expensive mm-hmm I could probably go like for a few days over the weekend, like stuff like that. So yeah. She expressed a desire to see me more

[00:24:55] Angela: and she just wanted to like live health healthy and happy in general.

[00:24:59] Angela: Yeah. Yeah. Well, and then we ended on a fond forced. I love you session with them because we ABCs don’t get that shit. So we forced

[00:25:10] Jesse: it. I will say my mom does hug me and tell me, she loves me alive. You guys are socially. And my mom is boy.

[00:25:18] Angela: We, we do it a little bit more now, but I’m definitely the instigator of that.

[00:25:22] Angela: Or I’m like, I need this,

[00:25:24] Jesse: I think they’ll get more used to it. It’s just, it’s kind of like the acclimation. It’s the same thing with my dad. The last time I said goodbye to him, I tried to give him a hug and he was like, oh yeah, that’s just a hug.

[00:25:36] Angela: I’m your son. yeah.

[00:25:38] Jesse: Yeah. They’re just, yeah, they’re just not used to like that kind of like physical.

[00:25:44] Jesse: I cause I don’t remember him ever hugging my grandparents. So that kind of like physical intimacy is just not there.

[00:25:51] Angela: Well, listeners, we learned a ton about our moms during this conversation. We had a lot of fun. So here’s your daily motivation to go ask your parents about their lives. Because I think you’ll learn a lot more than you think you’re going to, and they’ll be so happy to share with you.

[00:26:07] Angela: Yeah. So do it and tell us what you learn. Email us that tell us where you’re from@gmail.com or hit us up on social media. Let us know what you find out about your parents or let us know what was the most heartwarming thing you learned from our session with our mamas and happy mother’s day to all of the mommys out.

[00:26:26] Angela: And come back next week for another episode. And until then bitches.