Jesse Lin 0:05
Hi, I’m Jesse Lin.
Angela Lin 0:06
And I’m Angela Lin. And welcome back to But Where Are You Really From? Today we have a recurring guest kind of – if it’s twice it’s recurring, right? I don’t know. We have friend of the pod, Lil Waterboi, what’s up?
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Lil Waterboi 0:23
Hi, what’s up?
Angela Lin 0:24
Welcome back, we made a little joke. Before we started recording that now with a webcam and with a new beard. It’s like you’re 10 years older Lil Waterboi than a few months ago.
Lil Waterboi 0:37
The baby face is gone with the beard.
Angela Lin 0:41
I love it. You’re also – it’s also impressive that you can grow such like full beard.
Lil Waterboi 0:46
I wouldn’t say this is full. This is like not like, I mean, this I’m trying to like get to be less patchy. But like, we’ll see. I think in 5-10 years, I might have the full thing if I wanted to, you know,
Angela Lin 0:58
I’m sorry, you saying you’re gonna grow it for five to 10 years?
Lil Waterboi 1:00
I’m not. But in 5-10 – you know, say like, I just feel like…
Angela Lin 1:04
Oh with age.
Lil Waterboi 1:06
Yeah, exactly. That’s what I’m saying.
Jesse Lin 1:07
Yeah I’m kind of jealous. I wish I could grow any beard. It doesn’t it doesn’t like when my facial hair goes longer it just looks like hair on my face.
Angela Lin 1:19
Well, it’s great to have you back. And so for those who have not listened to it, we have a first episode that we did with Lil Waterboi. It’s Asians doing cool shit featuring Lil Waterboi. So if you haven’t listened to that, definitely go back there because we went more in depth into who you are, what your whole story is, and your career and trajectory and all that. So feel free to go back to that. But today we’re having him on for a different kind of topic. So before we get into that, though, I’m sure there’s lots of folks who don’t quite know who you are. So you want to intro yourself a little bit for those listeners.
Lil Waterboi 1:55
Yeah, so I’m Lil Waterboi I’m a producer, rapper, entrepreneur. I do a lot of stuff. creative stuff. I’m from Canada. And I’m Asian – Vietnamese specifically
Angela Lin 2:10
And hence why he’s on our show what’s up, okay!
Lil Waterboi 2:15
Oh, I forgot to plug. Yeah. I have a song that came out two days ago on Tuesday. It’s called 10 rings. It’s actually about the Shang-Chi movie. So check it out!
Angela Lin 2:27
Ooo yes. Just anywhere there’s music, Spotify?
Lil Waterboi 2:32
Apple Music, Spotify, like any streaming platform that exists, I hope it’s on there. It should be on. And it features to other dope Asian artists Mix Miyagi and Ace Autumn.
Angela Lin 2:44
I love these names. All these rapper names are fantastic. Okay, awesome. Check that out. And check it out because right now as you’re listening to this, it is a long weekend, at least for those in the US. It’s Thanksgiving weekend. And that’s actually exactly the topic that we’ll be talking about today with Lil Waterboi. I think it’s a kind of a recurring theme from our last time we talked to because at that point, we also were kind of comparing contrasting US versus Canadian experience for a lot of stuff.
Lil Waterboi 3:20
That’s the only identifiable character about me.
Angela Lin 3:25
That’s not true! But it’s a recurring trait we’re tapping into. But I remember when we talked about last time, you’re I think you helped surface to us how self centered we are as Americans. They were like, everything’s like about us and that’s like all the stuff we know about. And so I think with the topic of Thanksgiving, it’s very similar because we always think of Thanksgiving as like a US holiday only. But it’s definitely not and also I just my last job was like with a lot of Canadian people and so there’s like a whole month prior – two months prior? This is how little I know about it, but like several months prior scenes, they’re like okay, remember we have Thanksgiving tomorrow or whatever, like we’re not coming in. I’m like, Oh yeah, Canada also has this. So today we will be comparing and contrasting the two Thanksgivings. But before we get into that, but Jesse do you know this? I looked it up I don’t know if you looked it up beforehand. But do you know or do both of you?
Lil Waterboi 4:34
I probably don’t
Angela Lin 4:35
How many Thanksgivings? Take a guess how many Thanksgivings? Do you think there are in the world?
Jesse Lin 4:43
Oh, wait. I think I – I think it should be like..
Lil Waterboi 4:44
Does it have to be called Thanksgiving – do you know what I’m saying?
Angela Lin 4:48
No it can be a similar similar sentiment.
Jesse Lin 4:52
I want to say like 10.
Lil Waterboi 4:54
70?
Angela Lin 4:58
Whoo. Okay, it’s somewhere in the middle between what you two just said. At least from the like janky website I Googled right before it says 17. I, but I, yeah, but you were hinting at the right stuff, which is that it’s not always called Thanksgiving. Like I think in the US we tie it a lot with like pilgrims and like Native Americans and like settling in the in America. But it also has to do with the harvest festival. And so when you kind of like branch out the definition to that extent then there’s like a lot of countries that celebrate and give thanks for the harvest season. So 17. Okay, so then who done it better now we’re getting into. Let’s start with out of curiosity, how much do you know Lil Waterboi about what the Canadian origin story is for your Thanksgiving?
Lil Waterboi 6:01
Oh, damn, my, my history teachers are rolling roll. Well, they’re not dead, so they wouldn’t be rolling in their grave. But they’re judging me right now. Um, let me think. What do I know? I don’t really know why we celebrate Thanksgiving. I know. It has something to do with like harvesting. I know it has something to do with colonialism. Like I think they brought that over when they came here. I Yeah. Which is a whole nother topic. I don’t know if you guys want to get into it. But I was gonna ask you guys is Thanksgiving canceled in the US because it kind of is in Canada. Like, oh, yeah, anyways, that’s a whole nother topic later, but oh, yeah, I don’t know much.
Angela Lin 6:39
Oh, we’ll get into it. Okay, okay. Okay. So there’s, it sounds like there’s some similarity and that you mentioned colonialism. That’s a big part of our thing. But the harvest piece I think is like really de-emphasized in the US. I don’t think we really ever talked about that. So at least in that respect, you your all’s is like kind of more tapping into the other 15 I guess Thanksgivings that exist? What day is yours?
Lil Waterboi 7:07
It varies. It’s like the second Sunday of October.
Angela Lin 7:13
Hmm. of October. Okay. Yes, Sunday, interesting
Lil Waterboi 7:17
Very pertinent fact. One of the reasons Canadian Thanksgiving is better is that it’s sometimes lines up with my birthday. So, very important fact.
Angela Lin 7:27
Happy belated birthday.
Jesse Lin 7:28
Don’t you prefer having your birthday separate from a holiday some people get peeved when they’re the same days.
Lil Waterboi 7:34
If it’s Christmas, it sucks when’s the same day, but like our Thanksgiving is not like your Thanksgiving at all. Like there’s no gifts. There’s no it’s like really dry and boring.
Jesse Lin 7:44
We don’t get gifts on Thanksgiving.
Angela Lin 7:45
We don’t have gifts.
Lil Waterboi 7:45
You guys don’t have gifts?
Jesse Lin 7:46
No.
Lil Waterboi 7:48
Then why does Black Friday exist. I thought it was like kind of boxing day of Christmas.
Jesse Lin 7:52
Oh it’s because we’re a consumerist country.
Angela Lin 7:54
Yeah. Yeah. We like to buy things. Well, okay, we’re kind of already getting into it. So there’s some key differences; time of year and the Sunday versus like a work day. So but you guys still get the day off right, like Monday?
Lil Waterboi 8:12
Monday off, we get the Monday Off
Angela Lin 8:13
Okay. Okay. So we’re on like, opposite sides of the long weekend because we get like Thursday, Friday, Thursday, Friday, and you’re all are just Monday. Sad. Because we got that crossover bridge day
Jesse Lin 8:25
Well not everybody gets Friday off. I don’t get Friday off.
Lil Waterboi 8:29
Really you get just Thursday off?
Jesse Lin 8:30
Oh, yeah.
Lil Waterboi 8:32
That sucks.
Angela Lin 8:33
Yeah, that’s depressing.
Lil Waterboi 8:34
Capitalism.
That sucks. Okay, well, and then to answer your question, yes, we just like to buy things but also it’s like Thanksgiving is our portal into Christmas. So Black Friday is like the first of all, essentially, after you’re done eating your turkey. It’s like free for all Christmas season. And Black Friday is the beginning of that because a lot of people wait till Black Friday to buy a lot of their gifts for Christmas. Because that’s when like, all the shit is on sale. Yeah. Do y’all even have Black Friday?
We have your Black Friday. We we see you guys buying stuff. So we’re like, hey, let’s do the same thing.
Jesse Lin 9:19
It’s completely consumerist. Just like Valentine’s Day is yeah was created by like Hallmark to sell cards. So it’s very much like I think a couple of companies just realized that they could dump they’re gonna dump a bunch of inventory anyways, and then they decided to just make a shopping holiday out of it and now it’s like..
Lil Waterboi 9:37
The timing of is perfect. Like it’s almost like poetic. You know, like how the Christmas portal thing like it makes total sense. Very smart.
Jesse Lin 9:44
I think people also like to like go out after they eat Thanksgiving dinner like that used to be a thing what like pre-COVID You would like go out, go walking like go to a store and maybe that also made sense from like, go people go to the store afterwards standpoint.
Lil Waterboi 10:01
Wait I have a question, like, do you guys always eat like does everyone eat on Thursday? Or Friday? Or doesn’t matter? You can eat anytime during the weekend like, is there? How does that work?
Jesse Lin 10:13
I would say with your family, it’s traditionally on the day of like, if you’re doing like a Friendsgiving, you might do it like the week before the weekend before because your friends might be going to see their family. So it depends on what your plans are.
Angela Lin 10:29
Thursday is the big day though. Yeah, Thursday is like the real day and then you kind of like, make a priority list of who else is important in your life and schedule it beyond Thursday, pre/post Thursday. Well, let’s get into cuz you made it sound like it’s not as big of a deal to you guys as it is to us. So in the ranking of like, holidays, where does Thanksgiving fall for Canada?
Lil Waterboi 11:00
Like I’m just blanking out real quick. I’m gonna list the holidays because I’m not sure I have them all. So like we got Christmas. We got Easter. We got Thanksgiving. We got Valentine’s Day. St. Patrick’s – do you guys have St Patrick’s Yes.
Angela Lin 11:17
Yeah.
Jesse Lin 11:17
Wait, these are days that you have off?
Lil Waterboi 11:21
I’m not sure. I can’t.
Angela Lin 11:23
No just to put their holidays
Jesse Lin 11:24
Oh, just generally. Okay fair
Lil Waterboi 11:26
I don’t think we have St. St. Patrick’s we got nothing off and Valentine’s Day we have nothing off. What else? I know Easter we do though – New Years. Um, okay. Is that are those the major ones?
Angela Lin 11:38
Don’t y’all have like a shit ton of bank holidays? I feel like all my Canadian coworkers were like off half the time.
Jesse Lin 11:43
Labor Day.
Lil Waterboi 11:43
Yeah, but like, okay, we have Victoria Day. That’s pretty bad of me to forget. Victoria Day. Then we have – how do you call, Labor Day?
Angela Lin 11:55
Yeah, we got that too. Yeah.
Lil Waterboi 11:56
But, um, where was I at? Yeah, so I don’t know, I Canadians have a bunch of random holidays that like spread out, like days off. But no one really cares about half of them. Low key. But I’ll put Christmas up there. Christmas gets the cake. Then it’s probably like New Years, and then Easter. And then Valentine’s Day. And then how the Halloween is cooler than Valentine’s Day in my opinion. Kind of like to say toe-and-toe.
Jesse Lin 12:27
Yeah fair, Halloween is cooler than Valentine’s day.
Lil Waterboi 12:29
Like you guys get the sense of it. Like, Thanksgiving is pretty down there. I don’t know if I represent Canada as a whole. But Thanksgiving is not that cool. For the most part. In my opinion.
Angela Lin 12:40
We’re making you represent Canada. So
Lil Waterboi 12:44
Nice. I used to Model United Nations. So like, you know, it feels like I’m bringing that back, you know?
Jesse Lin 12:50
Oh my god that’s so funny Is it something that you usually celebrate with family? Or mostly friends? Or is the same kind of thing like a mix of both?
Lil Waterboi 13:00
A mix a both? It’s not so so universal of a holiday in Canada hat it’s like, weird not to celebrate, you know, like, plenty of people don’t celebrate Thanksgiving. Some people do a lot of people do I’d say but usually just it’s a dinner and that’s it. You know, it’s like slightly above average dinner.
Angela Lin 13:24
That’s sad bro, oh weird ok.
Lil Waterboi 13:29
You guys go all out in holidays in general like your July 4, the equivalent of that is like Victoria day and Victoria Day. It’s like non existent, like people just say yay. And they put like a selfie with a little sticker on it or something and call it a day. But you guys go all out for July 4. You know?
Angela Lin 13:47
Are we just like, like degenerates or what?
Jesse Lin 13:53
I think we like to party, right? Yeah, right.
Angela Lin 13:57
But okay, so Christmas. So then Christmas is your only big like, universally important family day.
Lil Waterboi 14:04
New Year’s is usually family here too. I’d say it’s more family than friends. It’s both it’s either or.
Angela Lin 14:13
Yeah, we’re we got different priorities over here
Lil Waterboi 14:17
New Year’s is a big deal here.
Angela Lin 14:19
Yeah, yeah. No, it’s it’s a big deal here too. But I think it’s a largely like friends thing. Yeah. Cuz you go out and drink.
Lil Waterboi 14:27
Okay. I don’t know if it’s like, again, I don’t represent Canada, even though this podcast as I do. Like, from my experience, a lot of people celebrate New Year’s with their family. So yeah, okay.
Jesse Lin 14:44
Is there anything traditionally that you would eat at Thanksgiving, anything that’s particular to Canada that we don’t have?
Angela Lin 14:52
Well, he wouldn’t know what we have necessarily.
Jesse Lin 14:53
Festive foods? Oh, maybe your favorite thing and then we can decide if it’s something that we’ve tasted before.
Lil Waterboi 15:00
My favorite Thanksgiving food? Yeah, I mean, like when it comes to festive foods in general, I’m going to speak generally because I don’t think there’s any Thanksgiving food for Canadians other than turkey. Festive foods in general are from Quebec. For those who don’t know, that’s like this weird part of Canada that speaks French and is like a little bit different from the rest of Canada. But yeah, there’s like a lot of foods that people have here that aren’t really known elsewhere, but we put maple syrup on. Okay. It’s like we do put maple syrup on a lot of things, but it’s not something we do every day. It just sometimes there’s occasions where you just pour maple syrup on everything. So it’s like maple syrup on ham, maple syrup on like, sausages. Maple syru….
Jesse Lin 15:42
That sounds good!
Lil Waterboi 15:43
Yeah, maybe it’s not bad. Maple syrup. On what else? I’m trying to remember. There’s meat pie. Not a big fan to be honest. I think it’s like a worse perversion of like, I like what’s that Irish one the beef pie?
Jesse Lin 15:58
Shepherd’s Pie?
Lil Waterboi 16:00
Not shepherd’s pie. The other one. It’s kind of hot inside. I mean, it’s like a it’s like Irish stew but in a pie.
Angela Lin 16:10
Okay, okay.
Lil Waterboi 16:11
Like that. I love that thing. But yeah, shepherd’s pie is also very popular in Quebec. I don’t know why. Like, because it’s, I guess there’s a big like Irish community that started off in Montreal, which is one of the biggest cities in Quebec. But yeah, shepherd’s pie is its own thing here. Like it kind of evolved into its own thing and quebecois people love it. And like it has a really bad name in French. It’s basically Chinese patty. Yeah, I don’t know why.
Jesse Lin 16:40
Chinese what?
Lil Waterboi 16:42
Pate, I guess the equivalent of…Chinese paste?
Angela Lin 16:46
Oh, oh, the liver?
Lil Waterboi 16:50
Yeah. That’s how it translates in English. It’s like pâté chinois.
Jesse Lin 16:56
Shepherd’s pie?
Angela Lin 16:57
It’s not Asian at all. That’s so random.
Lil Waterboi 17:00
I don’t know. Don’t quote me on this, please. But I think I remember someone telling me it had something to do with the Asia – the Chinese people that were doing the railroads. And that’s what they were eating something like that. They just they would it’s called Chinese Pate Here
Angela Lin 17:15
So I guess the Chinese people did your railroads too.
Jesse Lin 17:19
I was like, I guess they’re doing your railroads too. Jesus all right.
Angela Lin 17:25
Okay, interesting. Well, all right. Going back to the ranking in the US Thanksgiving is probably like number three, I would say, Jesse, you can argue with me, but like, I think Christmas. I don’t know, Christmas is number one for sure. Number two is arguably New Year’s or Thanksgiving, I think. In terms of like, and I’m ranking importance by like, family time, and the time when you have an excuse to be like, I’m taking vacation because it’s x holiday and I’m going to like travel back to go see my family or whatever. And that’s when like everyone does it. So in my mind, it’s like number two or number three in our holidays. Would you agree?
Jesse Lin 18:10
Yeah, I would say based off of festivities, it’s probably like Christmas the one like New Year’s the two? Thanksgiving that three? July 4 is the fourth.
Angela Lin 18:22
Oh you right now, no you’re right.
Jesse Lin 18:24
Because like it’s maybe not in other parts of the country. But it’s very clear when you like living in New York because Christmas there’s always Christmas fireworks July 4, a New Year’s there’s always fireworks like tons of people are going out. And Thanksgiving. There’s your usual stuff around Thanksgiving but also the Macy’s Day Parade, which is like, I don’t know if you’ve seen it, but it’s basically just like a ridiculous parade of inflatables that they run down the city and it’s like, it’s very fun, but very silly. And then July 4, because more fireworks. The rest of them we don’t really like do anything for those, you know what I mean?
Angela Lin 19:04
Yeah, you mentioned Easter. I mean that’s definitely big for the people that are religious but it’s not like a universally – like we have a lot of you know, atheist and agnostic folks out here and other religion folks so then it’s not like
Lil Waterboi 19:19
I’d say we do too. It’s just that I guess like yeah, the religion aspect in Quebec is a little bit like you know, there it’s like compared to other places in Canada, it’s a little bit more religious I’d say. But also just because like we don’t have Thanksgiving week off or something like you know, people can’t go on vacation for Thanksgiving. They can’t go on vacation for July 4 or the equivalent which is Victoria Day either so if you’re going to go a vacation, not for Christmas, your second best. Okay, well, yes, summer, not for summer, not for Christmas, the second the third best bet would be Easter.
Unknown Speaker 19:50
Interesting.
Jesse Lin 19:51
Wait why can’t you go on vacation for Thanksgiving?
Lil Waterboi 19:54
Because you have one day off.
Jesse Lin 19:56
How many days do you have off for Christmas?
Lil Waterboi 19:59
Christmas we have like a lot you know, it’s all the way from Christmas up until January.
Jesse Lin 20:03
I’m so triggered right now.
Lil Waterboi 20:06
So wait you guys go back to work after Christmas and then take off work again for New Years?
Jesse Lin 20:11
Okay, let’s let’s give you a school and on the capitalist America there are effectively no holidays. Like, there may be like, two to three holidays that most people are off. But if you’re working like a McDonald’s job you have like no days off, even on Christmas, and like it’s really rough. So like I we, I would say like, what are the things that like maybe everyone will get off is like…
What about school though? Like when you guys were in school?
Angela Lin 20:37
Oh, yeah, school you take off for like two to three weeks?
Jesse Lin 20:44
But working is different.
Lil Waterboi 20:45
Yeah, no 100% working depends on your job, for sure. Like I’m kind of curious, because I might thank you I wanted to spice up my Thanksgiving, right so like, what are your favorite Thanksgiving meals?
Jesse Lin 21:36
Actually, okay, uh hmm.
Angela Lin 21:38
Maybe we list the like, the normal thing.
Jesse Lin 21:41
I was gonna say that like what are like we could list some Thanksgiving things and you can tell us if they exist in Canada. Okay, so the turkey obviously. Stuffing?
Angela Lin 21:52
Okay, but but so many ways you could do the turkey though. It was like oven turkey. Some people like to deep fry their Turkey. The whole turkey. Wait, I got no, no, I guess it’s just oven or deep fry. But yeah,
Lil Waterboi 22:09
Yeah, we only have oven never heard of deep fried turkey. It sounds interesting.
Jesse Lin 22:12
It’s just you throw the turkey in a vat of oil and you fry it.
Angela Lin 22:15
And every year someone’s house burns down from trying to do that.
Lil Waterboi 22:19
Yeah. I can imagine.
Jesse Lin 22:21
Stuffing. Cranberry Sauce. Gravy.
Lil Waterboi 22:28
We put gravy on everything. It’s not even a Thanksgiving thing.
Angela Lin 22:31
Oh, y’all got poutine so..
Jesse Lin 22:36
Well, mashed potatoes, potatoes…
Angela Lin 22:39
Or sweet potatoes with like marshmallows. Sometimes.
Jesse Lin 22:42
That’s a sweet potato casserole. Yeah. Whoa,
Lil Waterboi 22:46
That sounds cool. Never had that
Jesse Lin 22:47
It’s it’s mashed sweet potatoes topped with nuts, I think pecans and then you put marshmallows on the top. And you bake it.
Lil Waterboi 22:59
Is that a dessert?
Angela Lin 23:01
It’s a side, it’s not even a dessert. Americans love just like heart attacky type things.
Jesse Lin 23:09
I’m not sure if it’s a dessert or not to be honest with you.
Angela Lin 23:11
I think it’s just a side.
Lil Waterboi 23:14
I wanna try, it sounds dope
Angela Lin 23:16
We also have okay, it’s big enough casseroles because Americans love casseroles got string bean casseroles, right? Because that’s what like it’s weird. It’s like string beans, mushroom – cream of mushroom soup. Right? And then like fried onions like onion ring type?
Lil Waterboi 23:35
Sounds dope like I would actually try that.
Jesse Lin 23:38
It’s pretty good.
Lil Waterboi 23:38
All of that sounds great.
Jesse Lin 23:39
Yeah. I like making those because they’re quite easy to do.
Angela Lin 23:44
They are a lot of things are can based which is a very go to American thing as well. What else there’s pumpkin pie pumpkin pie. Many pies actually just like all the pies.
Lil Waterboi 23:58
All the pies.
Angela Lin 23:59
Any pie possibility. But pumpkin is very popular.
Lil Waterboi 24:04
I think I think I should just drive over to the next time it’s Thanksgiving just like you know Sounds great. Sounds like a good meal.
Angela Lin 24:12
We’ll roll you back. Yeah, over the border. It’s it’s really full. Yeah, is that is that a thing though for you guys? Is it like to excess because we eat to excess.
Lil Waterboi 24:25
here we like so for Thanksgiving you would lay out a lot of stuff so a lot of sides right so but there’s no, in my opinion, there’s no real like formula. People just bring whatever side they want to bring and it just makes like a little like layout and you have the turkey and that’s Thanksgiving
Jesse Lin 24:42
So it’s like a potluck with the turkey.
Lil Waterboi 24:44
Yeah, it’s a potluck with the turkey exactly.
Jesse Lin 24:48
I think we do the same thing for Friendsgiving but it’s usually people will potluck like traditional Thanksgiving foods.
Angela Lin 24:54
Yes. What’s your favorite thing Jesse of all the things we listed.
Jesse Lin 24:59
Oh I have a really big, sweet tooth as Angela can attest to. So I would have to say the pumpkin pie. I love pumpkin pie.
Angela Lin 25:09
It’s very good.
Jesse Lin 25:10
And I really love pouring maple syrup on everything, too. I don’t know why people think it’s weird. Like when you go eat brunch, and you get french toast with bacon, and you pour syrup on the French toast, it gets on the bacon, it’ss delicious.
Angela Lin 25:22
Yeah, 100%, I can attest for that.
Jesse Lin 25:26
Yeah. What about you?
Angela Lin 25:28
Yeah, for me, I’m a I’m opposite. I’m a savory person. And I’m also a potato fiend. So mashed potatoes are like, really silky mashed potatoes with gravy.
Lil Waterboi 25:43
You have a secret ingredient for your mashed potatoes?
Angela Lin 25:46
A lot of butter, a lot of butter a lot. That’s the way that’s the key. Let’s get into some more serious stuff, you talked about colonization. And you talked about getting canceled. And we were curious if your Thanksgiving had anything to do with Native people at all, because of the 17 other ones, many of them have nothing to do with colonization, because it’s outside of the Americas. And it’s just like, harvesting season related. So tell us a little bit more about your all’s history and that holiday.
Lil Waterboi 26:28
History not my expertise, history not my expertise, but like maybe like, I guess like modern like sociology, like just how why people are upset about it and whatnot, I would know more. But I know it definitely has to do like, you know, with, I guess the idea of them coming here and implementing like, you know, farms or capitalism and whatever, just taking over the land. And basically, erasing native people almost altogether. That’s kind of what Thanksgiving is associated to nowadays. And a lot of like, there’s this movement, I guess, I don’t know if it started from the Native community, but there’s some native like, you know, voices that are pretty strong, that kind of like, brought this to almost mainstream light. It’s not that it’s right or wrong, but I just know a lot of like performative activists, like, you know, love to post like, you know, oh cancel Thanksgiving kind of stuff, you know, on Thanksgiving. So, like, I’m not saying, okay wait actually that sounds really bad. It’s not, not only them, but I know, there’s a lot of performative activism in there. You know, what I’m saying that there’s a lot of people that are like, Oh, my God can’t cancel Thanksgiving, the next day, super problematic person. You know, they don’t they just they they jump on the hype bandwagon. But yeah, so for young people, Thanksgiving is kind of – eekkk – territory,
Angela Lin 27:52
Hmm. Interesting. Is there a is there any sort of disassociation with the history of at all though, because maybe it’s not as because you described as not as, like a high ranking holiday for you guys. But for us, because Thanksgiving is up there, and like top three or four of all of our holidays, and it’s a very, like family focused one, there’s often for better or for worse, like a forgetfulness of the of the origin story, and like the history of it, and more of a focus on just like, the excuse to get together as a family and like, reunite over over a weekend. So I think for us, it’s easier to dissociate the like, negative element, because people don’t think of it only for the origin story, if that makes sense.
Lil Waterboi 28:43
Yeah. 100% I feel as though it’s definitely harder for you guys to like, say bad things about like, something that you guys are just so attached to. But in that sense, like, yeah, like the people, people still, I think the majority of people still celebrate it a little bit or do something or they don’t really, they will go out and, like get mad at someone for having a Thanksgiving dinner. You know what I’m saying? But there’s kind of this like, tone, where it’s like, if you post your Thanksgiving food layout, you have to say something about oh, you know, like, that’s the energy just like, Oh, you’re not you’re not gonna say anything. You know, that’s, that’s kind of the vibe.
Angela Lin 29:21
How recent was that?
Lil Waterboi 29:23
Like, again, I am not historian so. But for me, it feels like within the last few years that picked up
Jesse Lin 29:33
so people are in their posts, they’re speaking something to the fact that there is erasure of native people as a part of a holiday.
Lil Waterboi 29:43
Yeah, they wouldn’t like post in the same day. Do we do something? For example, for me as a like as a performer? Is it like in the communities that I’m around it can be very poorly viewed upon for me to perform, perform at a Thanksgiving themed thing. like Thanksgiving. Yeah.
Lil Waterboi: Like, I’m kind of curious though. Cause I, my Thanksgiving, I wanted to spice up my Thanksgiving. Right. So like, what are your favorite Thanksgiving meals actually. Okay. Uh, Hmm.
Angela Lin: I was going to say that like what? Or like we could list some Thanksgiving things and you can tell us if they exist in, in, in Canada. Okay. So the Turkey, obviously. Okay. But, but so many ways you could do the Turkey though. There was like oven Turkey. Some people like to fry their Turkey, the whole Turkey.
Angela Lin: Um, I got, no, no, I guess that’s just how often are deep fried, but yeah, we only have oven never heard of deep fried Turkey. Sounds interesting. It’s just, you throw the Turkey in a VAT of oil and you fry it and every year someone’s house burns down from trying to, yeah. I can imagine a stuffing. Yes. Yeah.
Angela Lin: Cranberry sauce. Uh, great. We put gravy on everything. It’s not even a Thanksgiving thing. Oh, y’all got poutine, so, okay. Um, where all the levers like mashed potatoes, potatoes, or sweet potatoes with like marshmallows. Sometimes that’s a sweet potato casserole. Yeah. Whoa, that sounds cool. It’s it’s mashed sweet potatoes topped with, uh, nuts.
Angela Lin: I think almonds. Pecans. And then you put, um, marshmallows on the top and you bake it. Is that a dessert? It’s a side. It’s a question of Americans, a love, just like heart attack, each type things. I’m not sure if it’s a dessert or not to view the side. Sweet potato calendar. We also have, okay. It’s being of casseroles because Americans love casseroles got string bean casseroles.
Angela Lin: Right. Cause that’s what, like, it’s weird. It’s like string beans, mushroom cream of mushroom soup. Right. And then like fried onion. Like onion, ring type things. Like I would actually try. That sounds great. Yeah. Yeah. I like making those because they’re quite easy to do. They are, a lot of things are can base, which is like a very go-to American thing as well.
Angela Lin: Um, what else? There’s a pumpkin pie. Pumpkin pie, many pies, actually. It just like all the pies, pies, any pie possibility, but pumpkin is very. I think I should just drive over to the states next time. It’s Thanksgiving. Just like, you know, sounds great. Sounds like a good meal. We’ll roll you back over the border.
Angela Lin: It’s a lot of food. It’s a wonderful. Yeah. Is that, is that a thing though, for you guys as it like to excess because we eat to excess. Well, we like, so for Thanksgiving you would lay out a lot of stuff. So a lot of sides, right? So every, but there’s no, uh, goat, I, in my opinion, there’s no real like formula people just bring whatever aside they want to bring.
Angela Lin: And they just makes like a little like layout and you have the Turkey and that’s, that’s like a potluck with the Turkey. Yeah. It’s a potluck with the Turkey. Exactly. Interesting. I think we did the same thing for friends giving, but it’s usually people will potluck like traditional Thanksgiving foods. Um, what’s your favorite thing, Jesse, of all the things we listed.
Angela Lin: Oh, I have a, I have a really big, uh, sweet tooth as Angela can attest. So I would have to say the pumpkin pie. I love pumpkin. That’s very good. And I really love pouring maple syrup on everything too. I don’t know why people think it’s weird. Like when you go eat brunch and you get French toast with bacon and you pour syrup on the French toast, because on the bacon it’s delicious.
Angela Lin: Yeah. 100%. I can attest for that. What about you? Yeah, for me, I’m a I’m opposite. I’m a savory person and I’m also a potato fiend. So mashed potatoes. So like really silky mashed potatoes with gravy. You have a secret ingredient for your mashed potatoes. A lot of butter, a lot of butter, a lot.
Angela Lin: That’s the way that’s. Let’s get into some more series to few talked about colonization, and you talked about getting canceled and we were curious if your Thanksgiving, how to add anything to do with native people at all, because of the 17 other ones, many of them have nothing to do with colonization because it’s outside of the Americas and it’s just.
Angela Lin: Harvesting season related. Um, so tell us a little bit more about your all’s history and that holiday history. Not my history, not my expertise, but like maybe like, I guess like modern, like sociology, like just how, why people are upset about it and whatnot. I would know more, but I know it definitely has to do like.
Angela Lin: With, I guess the idea of them coming here and implementing like, you know, farms or capitalism and whatever, and just taking over the land and basically erasing native people almost altogether. That’s kind of what Thanksgiving is associated to now and what days. And a lot of like, there’s this movement, I guess, I don’t know if it started from the native community, but there’s some native, like, you know, voices that are pretty strong that kind of like brought this to almost meeting.
Angela Lin: It’s not that it’s right or wrong, but I just know a lot of like performative activists, like, you know, love to post, like, you know, oh, canceled Thanksgiving kind of stuff, you know, on Thanksgiving. So like, I’m not saying, okay, wait, actually that’s, that sounds really bad. It’s not, not only them, but I know there’s a lot of performative activism in there.
Angela Lin: You know what I’m saying? But there’s a lot of people that are like, oh my God, I can’t cancel Thanksgiving the next day. The super problematic. You know, they don’t, they just, they jump on the bandwagon. But yeah. So for young people, Thanksgiving is kind of a eat territory. Right? Interesting. Is there a, um, is there any sort of dissociation with the history of it all though, because maybe it’s.
Angela Lin: Because you described as, not as like a high-ranking holiday for you guys, but for us, because Thanksgiving is up there and like top three or four of all of our holidays, and it’s a very like family focused one there’s often for better, for worse, like a forgetfulness of the, of the origin story and like the history of it and more of a focus on just like the excuse to get together as a family and like reunite, um, over.
Angela Lin: Over a weekend. So I think for us, it’s easier to just associate the like negative element because people don’t think of it only for the origin story, if that makes sense. Yeah. 100%. Um, I feel as though it’s definitely harder for you guys. Say bad things about like something that you guys are just so attached to, but in that sense, like, yeah, like the people, people still, I think the majority of people still celebrate it a little bit or do something or they don’t really, they won’t go out and like get mad at someone for having a Thanksgiving dinner.
Angela Lin: You know what I’m saying? But there’s kind of this like tone where it’s. If you post your Thanksgiving food layout, you have to say something about, you know, like that’s the energy. It just like, oh, you’re not, you’re not going to say anything. You know, that’s, that’s kind of the vibe. How recent was that REL like, um, again, I am not a historian, so, but for me it feels like within the last few years, Okay.
Jesse Lin: So people are in their posts. They’re speaking something to the fact that there is eraser of native people as a part of the holiday.
Lil Waterboi: Yeah. They would like post in the same day. They would do something. For example, for me as a, as a performer, it is, uh, it like in the communities that I’m around, it can be very poorly viewed upon for being to perform and perform at a Thanksgiving themed thing like a Thanksgiving.
Angela Lin: Okay. I have many thoughts on this. One is, um, for us, I think the equivalent like cancel, cancel day is Columbus day, which I don’t know if that’s a day for you guys is that day for you guys?
Lil Waterboi: Like we, it it’s in our calendar. Like we learned about it in history, but like no one celebrates it.
Angela Lin: Like no one gets it off or anything. It was always a a half. The people got it off half the people didn’t it was not everyone got it off for us either, but there’s been like a concerted effort over the last many years. I don’t know, five to 10 years, um, to rebrand it, indigenous people day to like celebrate them over Columbus day, essentially.
Angela Lin: Um, is that you are guys, is, is that the rebrand?
Lil Waterboi: Yes that’s what’s happening with Thanksgiving, yes!
Angela Lin: Yeah. That makes a lot of sense, because if you all didn’t have any real association with Columbus state where it was never like a big thing for you guys, then it makes sense. Thanksgiving’s the one that gets canceled and rebranded for us.
Angela Lin: It was definitely, yeah. Columbus day was like, I mean, yeah, we learned about like his whole story and it was celebrated when we’re growing up as kids until it became obvious it was a little problematic, but yeah.
Lil Waterboi: I mean, I’m totally cool with Columbus day being cancelled, like it’s kind of a pointless holiday.
Jesse Lin: Well, yeah, it’s also, I mean, I find it interesting because like, I don’t know if necessarily anybody, like, I think as Angela was saying, nobody here really celebrates it for the origin story anyways. And how you learn about the origin story evolves quite a bit from when you’re a kid to high school. Cause like, as a kid, they just tell you the nice, they had a nice dinner together.
Jesse Lin: And then as you get older, you’re like they did have a dinner together, but then there was like not nice stuff that was happening. Afterwards, but I do find it very interesting that, um, it is a very heated topic to like rebrand specific holidays, like even Columbus day where everyone’s like, all right, like we don’t really care.
Jesse Lin: Like who cares about Christopher Columbus? He dead, like, but people were like really, really up in arms about changing what that, what that is. And I think it just shows that people are very. I think they’re very, very, um, invested in the holiday, even if they’re not invested in the actual reason why it exists.
Angela Lin: It’s just what it symbolizes, right? That’s what a lot of things are like that get people up in arms nowadays. It’s just like what something symbolizes over anything else.
Lil Waterboi: While we’re on this topic, I just wanted to like wrap my head around, like, I guess the level of acknowledgement of natives that like, um, uh, Americans are, I guess, accustomed to, or, um, um, how do you say it?
Angela Lin: I think I know what you’re saying, like..
Lil Waterboi: How, um, how often does it happen? Yeah. How often do you guys like talk about this stuff? Cause like, I know for like one thing that, um, for example, in Montreal, it’s a custom for events to have a land acknowledgement before the beginning of the event to say that it belonged to natives. And that it, you know, that we are the settlers, we are the colonizers. and like to have a little speech about that every event, you know? So that’s something that’s popular here. Another thing is that Montreal, a lot of time, people still like PA there was a movement to kind of bring back its native name, which I know how to write, but I can’t say it. I don’t know how to pronounce it, so I don’t want to butcher it, but, uh,
Angela Lin: No we’re ignorant people? No, we don’t. Yeah, I actually, I wanted to talk to you about this too, because I had the sense that Canada was a little bit more like, um, placed a little bit more effort into acknowledging the history and like existing continued population of native people. Um, because the U.S. It’s weird. We have a really weird relationship, um, with native people in history in that, like, we have a really rough history with native people, obviously.
Angela Lin: Um, but do you guys have reservations?
Lil Waterboi: Yeah we do.
Angela Lin: So, yeah, we definitely still have a lot of reservations in the states and a lot of native people still live on them. Not all of them, obviously, but like, and it’s still a segregated kind of part. And then the, a lot of people there, um, rely on like casinos are often in reservation land and they rely on that as their money or whatever. Um, but we don’t, we don’t acknowledge much beyond that. It’s like we, the government essentially was like, well, we recognize we like fucked up and killed 90% of you or whatever. So here’s like, we carved out some land for you. And like, this is your reward, not reward. What’s that. What’s the word it’s like retribution?
Lil Waterboi: Yeah. It’s like, um, kind of your compensation prize or…
Angela Lin: Yeah, something like that, essentially. Right? Like take it or leave it. Like, this is all we’re giving you as like the make good. Um, but no, we don’t do any of that.
Lil Waterboi: I was just going to say like, don’t get me wrong. Like Canada’s not any better at all. Like that is the exact same history with Canada is just like, I don’t know, like Canada has this thing where that tries to look good.
Lil Waterboi: At least. Yeah, I hope there’s like progress in that regards. Like, I mean, like, I, I don’t ever think it’s too late to like, you know, make amends with these communities and try to actually like bring them back into, you know, flourishing kind of times, but like, yeah, it’s just, it’s pretty rough with.
Angela Lin: Yeah, it is pretty rough. And for those that want to learn a little bit more, we do have, we had an episode, um, with one of Jesse’s friends, who’s half Navajo. Um, so we have an episode called the other 1%, which is about we filmed, we recorded it for indigenous peoples or Columbus, which ever on you subscribed to, um, day, a couple of years back.
Angela Lin: Um, and we, we talked a little bit about that experience and her perspective was definitely like. It’s weird because native people still exist and they are, we call it the 1% because they, I guess they make up about 1% of the continued population. Um, but she’s like, people always talk about native people.
Angela Lin: Like they’re just history, but she’s like, we’re still here. Like I still live here and we’re still like, you know, living, breathing, active parts of the population, but we’re forgotten. So. It’s kind of weird in that sense. Well, on that depressing note.
Jesse Lin: Turn, turn the frown upside down,
Angela Lin: Turn it.
Jesse Lin: All right. We’re going to, we’re going to move onwards into the closing segment, the fortune cookie.
Jesse Lin: And we’re going to try to bring the energy up a little bit by talking about, um, our craziest family Thanksgiving story. Lil Waterboi would you like to start? Or it could be a friend’s giving it doesn’t matter.
Lil Waterboi: Yeah. Um, let me think this is so sad, but I remember one of my Thanksgivings.
Angela Lin: No, that’s not sad that that’s exactly what we wanted.
Lil Waterboi: No I’m just saying, like, I forget, like it’s not that this one was so memorable is that I forgot all the other ones, then nothing happens. It’s not a fun holiday here, but I can’t tell if it’s Christmas or Thanksgiving, but I remember buying a Turkey that’s that’s as, as an adult, you know, like usually my parents buy it.
Lil Waterboi: I remember buying a Turkey at some point. That’s my coolest story I got for you guys unfortunately.
Angela Lin: Was it, um, like, uh, hard to get the turkey? What made it interesting for you to remember that you got this turkey?
Lil Waterboi: Um, I was just trying to think really long and hard about how I would cook it. And then I was just like, this is way too complicated.
Lil Waterboi: I went to a place already had turkeys made, you know, and they had a pretty good Turkey and that’s the story.
Angela Lin: You know, TBH, one of the best turkeys I’ve ever had was when I was still in high school. And I used to, I don’t know about you, but, um, when I was growing up, like a lot of these Western holidays, I was the one at home making like a big deal out of it to be like, no, we have to celebrate Thanksgiving or we have to celebrate Christmas or whatever, because in Asian culture, especially if your parents are like immigrants. They didn’t necessarily celebrate these things. So I was the one making a fuss and so I was like, we need a Turkey. And so my mom was like, okay, we’re going to Costco then. Cause I’m not going to like, you know, I’m not doing this whole thing, like from scratch. So we got like a frozen. Pre smoked Turkey, I think.
Angela Lin: And all you had to do was like heat it up. Essentially. It was already like cooked, but it was frozen. And then you just heat it up. I was like, this is very good. And it’s a Costco turkey. That’s one of my best turkeys.
Jesse Lin: Look, the Costco is very good. Very good.
Lil Waterboi: You guys have fries and gravy out here? Sorry. Wait, Costco question.
Jesse Lin: No, no, I don’t think we even have fries at the Costco
Lil Waterboi: You guys are missing out
Angela Lin: I’m sure there are fries.
Jesse Lin: oh, at the food court. Yes.
Lil Waterboi: Yeah at the food court. Yeah. I’m talking about food court the part where you get food.
Jesse Lin: I don’t think so. I think it’s just fries. Okay.
Angela Lin: Pizza, hotdogs. Yeah. The chicken bake thing. Um, Sundays churros? I think though Costco is actually one of those places that does a lot of local tailoring.
Angela Lin: Cause I don’t know if you’ve noticed, like in different cities they will sell different shit. Um, I think at least one Costco sells like Boba somewhere.
Lil Waterboi: That’s crazy.
Jesse Lin: Yeah. I mean, they’re starting to sell like more Asian stuff in like neighborhoods where there a lot of Asian people
Jesse Lin: You mean every
Angela Lin: Costco. No. I’m saying every Costco is mostly Asian.
Angela Lin: I’m telling you no, no, this is an off topic anecdote. But when I moved to Chicago for business school, um, my parents helped me move in and we had to go buy all this shit, like furniture and like groceries and whatever. We went to Costco and it was like, okay, Chicago is in the Midwest. So everyone was like white or black, essentially.
Angela Lin: That’s like the majority demographic. And I was like, I haven’t seen a single Asian person. And then we drove like 30 minutes outside Chicago to go to the closest Costco and everyone was Asian. I was like, my people it was like nowhere else, but just in the Costco,
Lil Waterboi: That’s hilarious
Angela Lin: You always can find them.
Jesse Lin: Yeah. Um, my craziest Thanksgiving story, to be honest, I don’t think I have a super crazy one either, um, I remember this one year I have my senior year of college.
Jesse Lin: I was a residential assistant and I don’t, didn’t usually go home for Thanksgiving from New York because it’s a long Trek and you don’t really have that many days off from school. So I stayed and I had to host an event because I was there on Thanksgiving. And. It was very sad because it was like all the remaining people who couldn’t go home or like, didn’t go home or like, didn’t have anyone else to hang out with.
Jesse Lin: But the, event was like pretty good. I got like a full thing that was pre-made from whole foods. And the only big snafu was the Turkey didn’t really fit in the oven. So I had to like jam it in there. And then when I took it out, the like foil basically got ripped on the bottom of it. Cause I was like pulling it out and then, uh, I, I basically dripped juice all the way down from my room into the basement where the event was happening.
Angela Lin: At least you didn’t start a fire. That’s what I thought you were going to say.
Jesse Lin: No, no, not that, not that unskilled.
Angela Lin: Um, I don’t remember a crazy. Thanksgiving like of the Thanksgiving part, but because we were talked about black Friday and it is definitely all rolled into one, a lot of times for Americans because black Friday has gotten like more and more egregious every year.
Angela Lin: It used to be literally had to be Friday. Like, I, I remember way back when we were kids, it was. 6:00 AM doorbusters on Fridays. Like what they would call it. 6:00 AM. And then every year they’d like roll it back further and further. And then the norm was like midnight, but nowadays it’s like 4:00 PM, Thursday.
Angela Lin: Like Thanksgiving day, they will start black Friday stuff, which is terrible because then you’re not with your family anymore. Um, but I remember Jesse, you might’ve been there. It was one year when I was living in New York and we did a Friendsgiving. And we got, we ate too much and we drank too much wine, but all of us were like, we’re gonna go to Black Friday.
Angela Lin: Um, so we like stayed up or move. You took like a 30 minute nap or something because it was midnight was when the sores that we wanted to go to started their sales. And we walked down to Soho, I think, to the urban Outfitters and it was madness. Like it was, we got there, you know, a little bit before midnight and there was a huge line and they opened the flood gates and it was just like foul, you know, like I’m exaggerating.
Angela Lin: Hundreds of 20, some young, 20 something year olds, like running into the Urban Outfitters, just like mad dash and grabbing everything. And I just remember, I was like, okay, I’m I only want like one specific thing or whatever. So I went in, I was like, this looks like it. I’m just grabbing it. I was just like grabbed like 10 things, ran to the dressing room.
Angela Lin: I was one of the first people down there. And when I came out with all my stuff, it was just like a fucking mad house. And I was so happy that I was the first person to get into the dressing room because otherwise I would have waited for like three hours.
Jesse Lin: Yeah, it’s crazy.
Angela Lin: I would rescind my story.
Lil Waterboi: I have a better one.
Lil Waterboi: And it’s actually, if you count black Friday, then, like I’ve done black Friday in the morning and it’s not, it’s not Canadian Thanksgiving anymore, but I’ve done black Friday. It’s pretty crazy. Uh, I don’t know if I told you guys, but my dad’s American. Um, he,
Angela Lin: No, I don’t think you told us.
Lil Waterboi: So he used to work in Quebec in engineering, but he got a better job in Arizona.
Lil Waterboi: So he moved there, he got a green card and everything he’s been there for a long time. He recently came back though, but he was there for a long time. So, uh, one of when I was like, in my teenage years, me and my sister, we went to a black Friday thing. It, was at a, uh it’s between Arizona and California, it wasn’t.
Lil Waterboi: It was Cabazon?
Jesse Lin: Nevada?
Lil Waterboi: No, it was in California I think.
Angela Lin: Lil Waterloo was trying to like name an actual outlet and Jesse just names an entire state.
Jesse Lin: It’s a giant outlet.
Lil Waterboi: Yeah. But there was an outlet, I think it was called Cabazon. I can’t remember, but it was like, it was dope. Like even our boxing day doesn’t get that crazy.
Lil Waterboi: But yeah, people were out there, uh, in the midnight, like you said, like camping and whatnot and uh, yeah, we, we did some shopping and that was a fun time. I definitely think American Thanksgiving is more fun.
Angela Lin: And what is boxing day? I’ve heard of this vaguely…
Lil Waterboi: Wait you guys don’t have Boxing day? I thought boxing day was American.
Lil Waterboi: No, it’s after Christmas. I am so shook. Like my world. I’ve always thought it was American ok wait boxing days. Yeah. People returned there. Okay. This is the reasoning behind it, but it’s just another capitalist holiday to sell shit. But the reasoning is that, uh, people get Christmas gifts and sometimes they don’t like it and they return it.
Lil Waterboi: And like a lot of inventory gets left. Like, you know, uh, no one buys it and like it it’s past Christmas. So they do like one last day of sales. And at December 26th, it’s called boxing day. It’s basically our black Friday. That’s why I thought black Friday was about gifts because that’s what boxing day is about.
Angela Lin: Hmm. Interesting. I mean, it kind of is because you’re buying for Christmas, but yours is to return gifts and buy leftover gifts.
Angela Lin: Exactly. Buying leftover. So wait, you guys don’t shop on the 26?
Jesse Lin: I mean, you can, and then there are like some sales.
Lil Waterboi: Whoa my, um, one of my long-term collaborators, like JT on the beat, he’s from Florida.
Lil Waterboi: I’m going to go ask him about boxing day. Now I’m just too shocked about this.
Jesse Lin: He’s going to be like, what’s that?
Angela Lin: Yeah. Well, if he has been in Canada for a while, he probably knows.
Lil Waterboi: He’s been for three, four years, but like still he, like, he never had family here.
Angela Lin: Well, we have two separate capitalist based sale day haul semi holidays.
Lil Waterboi: We joined it on yours. You guys should come over here and check out Boxing Day. See what it’s about.
Angela Lin: Okay.
Jesse Lin: It’s going to be too cold
Jesse Lin: Facts. It will unfortunately. Well, you’re from New York. You can handle the cold.
Jesse Lin: I’ve been working from home this whole time and I have no out outdoor immunity anymore. I walk outside and I’m like frozen.
Angela Lin: Yeah. Okay. Well, thanks for joining us on this very random topic.
Angela Lin: Thanks for having me. I love that I represent Canada on this topic. You will always represent Canada for, for us on this podcast. Uh, but well, you want to plug one more time? What you got coming up for what just dropped?
Lil Waterboi: 10 rings. Um, if each it’s a song about the Shang-Chi uh but just, I guess, like I kinda got inspired off of like the, the Asian representation and how cool it was to have an Asian superheroes. Hopped on that topic made a song. Um, and then I called up two of my Asian rapper friends Mix Miyagi and Ace Autmn and they delivered.
Lil Waterboi: So check that out. 10 rings on all streaming platforms.
Angela Lin: Yes. Um, and people can find you on streaming, but also Instagram, other social?
Lil Waterboi: A little water boy, L I L space water, but boy, with an “I”. And if you guys want to look into like our collective slash. Like music, studio music. Um, it’s called BAHAY collective B a H a Y that’s Filipino that’s Tagalog for home – BAHAY collective.
Angela Lin: Yes. All about it. Okay. Well, thank you.
Jesse Lin: So everyone, I hope you enjoy meandering along with us on this episode where we touched on very many wide and varying topics. But if you have any questions, if you have any feedback, if you want to just let us know what your favorite Thanksgiving holiday is, which one, the Canadian, the United States, one, maybe your favorite foods, maybe your favorite traditions.
Jesse Lin: Write us in at telluswhereyourefrom@Gmail.com.
Jesse Lin: And check out a Lil Waterboi when you get a chance. Okay. And come back next week because we have a fresh batch of episodes brewing for you coming out every Friday for quite a while.