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Frightening Halloween Stories from Taiwan


Angela Lin 0:08
Today is the day before Halloween so we’re gonna spend a whole episode dedicated to spooky shit inspired by it or in celebration of Halloween. But before we go into that we just wanted to chitchat a little bit about our love of or memories of or whatever of this holiday for me. Halloween is one of my favorite holidays, obviously barring quarantine year where like, everything’s fucked up and like not the normal shit, but I’ve always loved Halloween. I love everything scary. Like there’s already part of me normally because I love horror movies. I love like serial killer shit. Like I always love that darker, scarier shit to begin with. And so if there’s a holiday, it’s like, dedicated to all things kind of paranormal and spooky. It’s like, Okay, this is my this is my jam. And I always remembered like very much looking forward to Halloween coming or like fall season and then definitely Halloween coming around as a kid. Not just for trick or treating like that shit was fun. But like that wasn’t really what I was looking forward to. I loved on formerly ABC Family, aka free form right now. They had 31 days of Halloween.


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Jesse Lin 1:35
I remember this. I mean, I didn’t have cable, but I know what it is.

Angela Lin 1:38
Yeah. So it was like a countdown done the Halloween and everyday they play the classics. And like I loved watching Hocus Pocus, I’m definitely gonna rewatch that this year, I loved Halloween Town on Disney Channel, there’s like, all this fun shit. So it was something I always looked forward to. And then even as an adult, it’s definitely still like, stuck with me. And I like still like watching those movies. But I also really like the dressing up factor. And it’s not just like, oh, I get to like slap on a costume that I paid $100 for and like put zero thought into. I think as I became an adult, then it was more about like, oh, I really like spending time thinking about what costume I’m gonna have that’s gonna be like, really culturally relevant. And like, I’m gonna put a lot of thought into too. And like build on my own. I’m not the kind that’s like stitching together the costume. I know people who are like on that end of the spectrum, but I am more on the like, make it myself side than the, like storebought side. So it’s always like, it’s always brought me a lot of joy and like a lot of pride to walk into work or like, wherever we’re going out that night with my costume and getting compliments because I like put a lot of work into it. So yeah, anyways, I’m done.

Jesse Lin 2:59
So Halloween is like your Comic Con. Basically. That’s my shit. That’s so fun. So I also enjoy Halloween. Although I don’t think I have the same level of fervor as you do for it. Obviously, as kids Halloween is like super awesome. And as Angela and I have said many times we grew up in a pretty well to do suburb. So Halloween was pretty good. Like everyone had candy. It’s like very safe environment that you can go trick or treating. And I feel like Halloween wasn’t that big deal for me and like college and like early 20s because it seemed like a lot of work like to get a costume. And then it’s very expensive to get an adult costume like from the store. Yeah. And then to do your own costume, as you said is is like also very time consuming. And so a lot of the times I would just like I’m not gonna partake in this, or I would just like go out like dressed normally. Hmm. But since I’ve, you know, come out of relationship and I’m trying to like find more of a fun in life minus all of this year, thank you 2020. I did do a bunch of stuff last Halloween, which is like a blast, like went to a bunch of parties like actually dressed up in partake, so I could I feel like I embodied a little bit more of this spirit in 2019. And hopefully will continue so in future years.

Angela Lin 4:22
Hey, oh, yeah, past this year.

Jesse Lin 4:24
Yeah past this year, for sure.

Angela Lin 4:26
Okay, well, now you know our thoughts on Halloween. Let’s get to the fun stuff. So what we thought would be fun and relevant for our podcast theme was to tell some scary ghost stories or other spooky stories that we were able to mine from our parents. So things that are like from Chinese or Taiwanese lore.

Jesse Lin 4:49
Alright, so I asked my parents about some of the stories too. And I think there’s a very there’s like two tiers of stories just like the general level of stories that everyone knows which is kind of like backed in like Chinese mythology or Chinese fable. And then there’s kind of like your local from the countryside in Taiwanese like I don’t want to say hick stories. But you know, it’s like more of a country like a country story like you go to like, somewhere in the middle of Texas and they’ll be like, have you seen the, you know, X, Y and Z? What’s that Mexican thing?

Angela Lin 5:24
Chupacabra.

Unknown Speaker 5:25
Chupacabra? Yeah. So it’s like, not everybody believes in that, but like some people actually do. So my mom told me this story. So basically, the story starts off with this young person who’s going to climb a mountain in Taiwan with some of his firneds. And while he was preparing for it, one of his uncles gave him a talisman to wear, because he was like, your face looks not auspicious. So I’m gonna get you this talisman to wear so that you’re safe. He’s like, You’re ugly. So it’s a it’s a climb on a tall mountain. So they had to get a guide who is a native Taiwanese person, so not like people who immigrated from China but someone indigenous. And before the climb, said young person had basically was dreaming for a few days that something was chasing him and that his legs were bleeding. So I’m gonna start. And so then they went on the climb, right? So the first night, he heard a cry from one of the tents, and so everyone was like, Oh, my God, what’s happening? They went investigating the person was missing. Then the guide was like, Okay, let’s split up and try to find the person.

Angela Lin 6:33
That is never the right move.

Jesse Lin 6:36
Probably like, you know, we could probably it was like, I think my mom was a large enough group. So it was like three and two people. So groups, two groups, so it wasn’t like you’re by yourself or anything. Yeah. And before they split up, the guide was like, if you hear anything, don’t say anything. Like just keep going wherever you’re going. Don’t talk at all. So they were like, they split up. They quickly found out that the walkie talkies that they had which so this story is not in like in antiquity, they had walkie talkies. Okay, the walkie talkies that they had weren’t working. So they couldn’t communicate with the other group. He the young guy and some other person in his group, you know, they were walking around, they ended up walking to a waterfall, and they thought they heard someone like whining or like, you know, moaning, basically. And they found the missing dude. And the missing guy’s legs were bleeding and all his toes were bitten off. So they were like, oh, we need to like, we need to get him out of here right away. So they carried him and they were like, on the way down the mountain. And they were like, We feel like someone’s following us. And then they look back and they said they saw a bunch of like small green men following them. So they’re like, my mom called these “moh-shing-ah” in Taiwanese, and the way that she described them is they’re kind of like poltergeists, or like, gnomes. They’re not like, innately malevolent, but they’re very mischievious. So he saw that he realized they were following them, and it surprised and like scared him. And so he shouted out, like, Oh, my God, I see these “moh-shing-ah” . But then he realized the guide said, don’t say anything. So then he was like, oh, crap. And as soon as he said something, the small green men’s mouths, like sprouted like giant teeth, and they started like chasing them. So they ended up like running all the way down the mountain. And they finally crossed over like a railway. And they passed out. And then when they woke up, they were in a hospital. And the, the young guy asked the tour guide, like, hey, what happened? Like, what’s going on? We’re being chased by these like crazy gnome things. And the guy was like, kind of in like, befuddled kind of way was like, I don’t remember anything like that. And then he looked down at the talisman he was wearing and it was split down the middle. So he went back to his uncle after all this and told him about the whole story and experience. And his uncle was like, yeah, like, I gave this to you, because I felt like your, or your face was inauspicious. And then the uncle was like, but I also kind of felt like it was like, not enough. So the night that he left for the journey, the uncle went to pray at the shrine for the “tu-di-gong”, which is like the local, like in Taiwan, there’s like a local god for each like small like land area that’s supposed to be like the protector of that land area. So we went to pray at that shrine to that god. And he said, basically, that what the guide told them was the guide channeling that local God to warn them not to say anything, which is why the guide like was like I don’t remember any of this, and I don’t remember all that. Yeah. So that’s my story.

Angela Lin 9:58
Oh my god, I have so many thoughts and questions. Wait. So a question to start is this is like a legend that’s passed down or it’s like she is like someone they kind of know or like a friend of a friend kind of thing that actually supposedly happen.

Jesse Lin 10:17
I think – I know my mom said this was like a family friend story.

Angela Lin 10:20
Oh my god. Oh my god. That’s amazing. Oh, I’m freaking out.

Jesse Lin 10:28
It’s not that crazy, because I feel like, I mean, I remember when I went back when I was like, maybe 10, or 11. And Taiwan, even in like the 90s, early 2000s. It’s like completely not what it is now. Like, it used to be so hard to get around. And it’s a tiny, tiny country. I remember, we used to have to drive like 11-12 hours to get from Taipei to the countryside. And it’s literally like, in like straight distance it’s not very far. But because of the geography, the earthquakes and the monsoons it’s very hard to build infrastructure there that is not like destroyed immediately by a natural disaster. So I feel like there are a lot of situations like that where it could be like, very isolating.

Angela Lin 11:11
Yeah, but like, the little green men.

Jesse Lin 11:16
Yeah, so I think they were kind of like, they’re like folk creatures, you know, in a sense, and my mom explained that they’re, like, a kind of, like, forest fairy that live amongst humans in antiquity, obviously, but they are. They’re like poltergeists, as I said, so they’re very like mischievious and she said, like most of the time they will like lead you know, if you’re like climbing a mountain, or you’re somewhere in the forest like they will lead you around in like loops and stuff like trick you to go places to get you lost and stuff like that.

Angela Lin 11:52
Aren’t poltergeists bad?

Jesse Lin 11:54
Yeah, I guess poltergeists is not a good good analogy. I would say a gnome is probably I know, a gnome is probably a close wrong.

Angela Lin 12:02
Tricky elves kind of thing. Poltergeist is like the exorcist. You know, like…

Jesse Lin 12:08
That’s in the movie though. I don’t know if the actual definition of of Poltergeist I think is like a mischievious ghost early. I think so.

Angela Lin 12:18
Wait, that was a fantastic story.

Jesse Lin 12:20
Yeah, you liked it?

Angela Lin 12:21
What a great tale! Especially because there’s like, maybe it was real? I don’t know. Or they think it was real. You know? Oh, that’s so fun. Okay, so since you talked about the like, there’s like the formal stories, and then there’s like, more country bumpkin like tales. I also have, I also got both from my dad. So you told me so he also grew up like in in the straight up country, like rural side, and he talked about how when he was young, or like four or five years old, like he remembers that, you know, there’s like no TV back then there was like not a lot of stuff to entertain yourself with. So every night after dinner, basically everyone in the family would grab like a chair or stool and take it to their family temple, because everyone has a family temple to like, you know, venerate their, their ancestors and whatnot. And they would set up their chairs around like, candles, or whatever. And then the adults would basically just tell scary ghost stories to their kids to like scare them. So he remembers that there is a story that his uncles or whatever used to tell him, where it was like that there was a river ghost, so there’s a ghost that lives in the river. And he he or she is like constantly at the cusp of moving on to like their next iteration of life. But in order for it to move on to that next iteration, it needs to find someone else to take its place. So yeah, so they would tell I got like chills, and my dad was telling me it’s such a short story, but he basically was like, so our parents and uncles would tell us not to go near the river. Because if you go in and you try to swim in the river, the river ghost will come out and pull you down and drown you so that they can take, you can take their place, and they can essentially like take your life place, and like escape the river finally. And so this is like terrifying for me to think about. And but obviously, like, you know, there’s like the, you know, mystical side when you’re like imagining it to be real. And then there’s like, the practical side, which is like, parents not want their like five year old children near rushing water and like, you know, possibly killing themselves by accident. And so he told me like, and then the parents would make it seem like super real because like people kids did die in the river because it was like, you know, dangerous, and so they’d be like so and so’s son just got caught by the river ghost like the other days so you better be careful not to go down there. I’m like, oh, so yeah, that’s the country bumpkin one very short and sweet. But I was like, he told me at night and I was like, ah, like, oh, imagining this like demon thing coming out of the water and be like goodbye taking you.

Jesse Lin 15:17
And you’re like, kind of scared of the water.

Angela Lin 15:20
Yeah. already I’m already scared of the water so if some fucking ghost demon came out it’s like you’re taking me.

Jesse Lin 15:28
If I was a smartass kid I would be like, so he’s free now so I wouldn’t get captured, right?

Angela Lin 15:34
Wait what?

Jesse Lin 15:35
Cause you said so and so’s kid drowned. So that ghost is free.

Angela Lin 15:40
Oh, true. That’s true.

Jesse Lin 15:42
That’s if I was a smartass kid but…

Angela Lin 15:45
Yeah, well, or you could look at it the other way. Which is that kid who drowned now is the new River ghost.

Jesse Lin 16:43
Oh, good to see you again, Billy don’t drown me please.

Angela Lin 15:55
Oh, what mighty big teeth you suddenly have. Yeah, so my dad has just this like treasure trove of, of stories and like life experience things once you get him talking. So beyond the stories, he also was talking about other like ghostly things that are part of Chinese culture. And who’s talking about July being ghost month. So July in the lunar calendar, though, so it changes every year. So this like sticks out to me, because I remember when I was planning my wedding, which didn’t happen this year, anyway, because of quarantine. But I was planning it. I told my mom that we were looking at August, like end of July or first week of August. And I remember her van like whoa, whoa, whoa, let me go check the lunar calendar because if it falls in lunar July, that’s ghost month and that’s like super unlucky. So you can’t have your wedding then and I was like, eyeroll eyeroll. But my dad told me a little bit more about ghosts month and I was like, Oh, this is kind of like interesting and reminded me a little bit of Dia de los Muertos in Mexican culture. He was telling me that like basically like very common that like every family in Taiwan and China is essentially you have like a small temple or like an altar or something to remember your ancestors and you basically every day have like offerings to it right like food or whatever. So they’re always taking care of in the afterlife. But he’s talking about how they’re all these other souls that are lost and like don’t have families that remember them and like you know, help them in the afterlife because they died in an accident or they were like bad people or like whatever right there are all these other ghosts that exist and so he was talking about how the whole month is called ghost month but he said on July 15 is like the big day where you’re supposed to put out offerings like a bunch of food including like what was kind of expensive for poor people like my family back then like chicken and pork and stuff on July 15 as offerings to all these other ghosts because they also need help in the afterlife. And July is when the portals from the underworld are opened up and all these ghosts are released out into the human world and they’re there to like feed on the human world that’s what my dad said and he was like the food is very important and then you also have to burn a paper money so it’s not like real money…

…funeral money basically..

you burn it so that it can like transfer into the ghost world and then the ghosts can use it to like pay for things in the ghost world.

Jesse Lin 18:44
You can never escape capitalism money everywhere.

Angela Lin 18:47
Yeah, that’s right. But yeah, it was so interesting to me because I was like oh, this sounds kind of nice in a way because you’re like helping all these souls but he’s like yeah, but at the same time goes month is like a month where nothing happens like you’re not supposed to do anything big in your life like get married or buy a house or like move somewhere or get a new job like all that shit is bad during that month so don’t do it. Even though the sentiment to me feels kind of like very kind and like warm much like on Dia de Los Muertos is when like Mexican people celebrate their dead ancestors and like also put out offerings and stuff but it’s like a celebration that they get to reunite with her ghostly ancestors versus this is like I don’t know you’re like doing it to like not have harm happen to you.

Jesse Lin 19:41
No, my mom my mom does the same thing like towards the end of ghosts month like she’d be like, don’t like don’t go anywhere, like dangerous. I’d be like I’m going to the beach is like don’t go swimming. The other holidays is like you’re going to your ancestors and you’re like offering them stuff and in this one as you said it’s not that way like they’re released into our world and they’re like seeking stuff from you.

Angela Lin 20:05
They’re on a feeding frenzy.

Jesse Lin 20:05
Yeah, yeah. So that’s what they’re like this is the main difference is that like, you’re not profferring something? They’re coming to you for stuff so well, it’s so interesting,

Angela Lin 20:17
Right? It’s like, do I feel good about this like that we’re helping these lost souls or do I feel like really terrified that these this like wave of ghouls are unleashed on us? I don’t know.

Jesse Lin 20:29
I don’t know. But I don’t have an altar in my apartment. So

Angela Lin 20:35
Neither do I, we’ve never done it.

Well, so related to that, because like I said, once I started talking my dad, it was like this, like, endless spiral of additional things. So because we were talking about the underworld, he was like, Well, have you heard of the king of the underworld? His name is Yan Luo Wong. And I was like, no, who that.

So the person who..

Jesse Lin 21:01
What?!?

Angela Lin 21:01
I don’t know, you know, maybe I’ve heard of it way back when I haven’t talked to my parents

Jesse Lin 21:06
You’ve def seen a statue of him at least.

Angela Lin 21:08
Oh, probably yeah.

Jesse Lin 21:09
Yeah, the underworld gods are all like, their faces are scary.

Angela Lin 21:13
I feel like I know what you’re talking about. But yeah, I probably never knew his name. But yeah, so so my dad was saying about ghosts month, Yan Luo Wang is the person who just says like, okay, you’re released to go like, you can be free for this month, right? But anyways, he was telling me about him. And I felt like it was super interesting, because there are some similarities, but also like, huge differences between the concept of like heaven and hell, and like grim reaper style, shit between, like, Eastern tradition, or at least Chinese specifically, and like Western world. So Yan Luo Wang has this book of everyone who’s alive and has your name and your like, date of deathrReady. So when it’s your time to die, he knows and he sends these like messengers out to tell you it’s time. And my dad was telling me that these messengers are like, they wear all white. And they have this like, three foot tall hat that they wear. So it’s like, very obvious who they are. And if you see those messengers, you’re like, ah shit, it’s my time. So anyways, so you when you die, these messengers are going to come and like take you down into the underworld. And then you are presented with this mirror, where you will see your whole life like replay across this mirror. And there’s Yan Luo Wang is like the judge of whether ultimately your good deeds and bad deeds, like balanced out to be net good or net bad. And if it’s net good, you immediately get to reincarnate into another life, and you just like leave and become a different person. But if it’s net bad, then you are sentenced to hell, like this underworld that he oversees, and like different punishments and like different lengths of time, but like your sentence to like, you know, torture and whatnot, and but even after that punishment, then you would eventually be reincarnated again. So that was interesting to me. And then I asked him like, so there’s basically no heaven, like, you’re if you were good, you just then reincarnate. And there’s like no other destination, it’s like hell or reincarnation. And he was like, no, there is a heaven type thing. But he’s like, it’s not really called heaven. He said, it’s called Shen Xian. So it’s called like fairy world and it’s where all the gods live. And so he said, if you are Zheng Ji Wei Sheng. So Zheng means like righteous Ji means like, you know, you never cheat you’re like super straight and like you You know, go by the law kind of person. If you are like super righteous, and like super, you know, justice, whatever, you know, a really good person, then Yan Luo Wang would deem that you are so good that you can be shot up to this fairy world instead of having to reincarnate as another human. And my dad said that like so essentially this fairy world is where all the gods live and in opposition to Western ideas of Gods where they’re like, this whole other being that like was never related to humans, he’s like in, in Chinese lore, all gods were once human, and they like transcended into Gods. So he was talking about like, all those statues we see at temples and whatever it is like they look human esque. Because they were humans once, so, so yeah, I thought that was super interesting. I was like, Oh, I love it.

Jesse Lin 25:08
I know that it’s really interesting. I feel like it does. It draws a lot from I mean, obviously they’re very related like, elements of Buddhism are seen in Taoism and this idea that I mean, the first Buddhas were humans who reached enlightenment right so it makes sense that they’re that heaven is all made of humans. But I think they’re like a few stories as well where likes quote unquote fairies are removed from heaven so your place is like not guaranteed forever. I think the um, the story about a lady stranded on a moon with a rabbit

Oh, yeah, that was Guanyin

I don’t think there’s a separate one. There’s like an epic love story where this lady who was a fairy I think I might be telling it right or incorrectly. But she was like, removed from heaven. Like, and yeah, yes for a forbidden love with a man and the man is like trapped on earth so they can never they can only meet once a year during I think it’s Zhong Chiu Jie.

Angela Lin 26:13
Oh, yeah. Well, that’s why you eat the moon cakes.

Jesse Lin 26:17
Yeah, yeah. And the rabbits supposed to be there to like make… I think the rabbit is like a modern cute addition so that she’s not like sad and lonely by herself.

Angela Lin 26:25
Oh like her one friend is this rabbit on the moon?

You know what? Know, I very much remember that. Sorry. And that maybe I conflated the Guanyin part of it but because I remember looking up at the moon when I was a kid. I mean, like I can see the rabbit like I can see it kind of a shape of a rabbit. And I feel like my I guess all my prayers were misguided them because I was always prayed to the moon

I got ask my mom about this. I feel like she taught me to do that.

Jesse Lin 26:54
Oh, yeah, you should. You should check that.

All right, let’s hop on over to the fortune cookie. Since Angela loves Halloween so much and obviously I’m building my Halloween love. We wanted to talk about as a fun clothes. What are the best Halloween costumes that we’ve done?

Angela Lin 27:14
Okay, well, yeah, this is I will never beat this one. And I like constantly still show pictures to people.

I think I know which one you’re going to talk about, but go!

You definite know – Kal Drago from Game of Thrones. Yes. Okay, so this was when I was still working in New York. So this is so long ago was like 2013 or something like that. But that’s also you know, peak of Game of Thrones, like when I was still on up it was very elaborate. Well, it helps that Jason Momoa is like you know has like Asian ish features because he’s half Hawaiian. So I was like, Okay, I can I can get away with this because I have also like dark skin I’m like long black hair. So I obviously tied into like the the style that he did but then it like really trip people out but because he’s like shirtless all the time. Right. Like he basically has like, like some sort of like pelts thing that he wears and long pants, but he’s shirtless and like jacked. So I had to, I had to buy like a nude leotard, that I could look shirtless without being totally inappropriate. And then he has these like, blue tattoo type thing on his shoulder like

Jesse Lin 28:33
Fangs kind of

Angela Lin 28:34
Yeah I drew those in, and then I pieced together like a gladiator skirt as the pelt thing. And then like black pants and boots, essentially. But then it took me like 40 minutes to put on the makeup because I realized like, I’ve worn the same makeup since I was like 22 years old, which is just a cat eye with eyeliner and mascara. Like I don’t know how to do anything else. So when I looked at his picture, he wears way more makeup than I do, because he has this huge like, kind of like, what is it called?

Jesse Lin 29:08
Like smoky eye?

Angela Lin 29:09
Yes, he has an intense smoky eye. So I was like, practice it the day before. And then basically because I was in New York and like no one has a car in New York, so I had to commute right to work on the subway and I didn’t want people staring at me that early in the morning at like 9am so I only half dressed without the makeup yet. And then I like quickly ran into the bathroom before anyone saw me and it was like applying this makeup. And I remember someone walked in and like looked at me and I was like, carry on. Don’t look at me. But it turned out really well to the point where like everyone gave me compliments about it. But it was funny because Game of Thrones is like very much part of the zeitgeist at that point. So like most people knew what I was, but even people who like don’t watch Game of Thrones there’s I remember, there was one woman who was like, I don’t know what you are, but I am into this. And the best compliment was, you know how New York everyone wants to be an actor, like everyone is an actor of some sort. And so I worked in Times Square. Unfortunately, that’s where my office used to be. And right near my office was a Jekyll and Hyde bar. Where like year round themed at Jekyll and Hyde, right? And so they always have their employees out in Time Square dressed in character and like trying to get you to come into their bar. And I was like, walking past them. Because I wanted a friend to take a picture of me in Time Square in my costume, and they broke character to be like, dude, I love your costume. I was like, yes, I’ve broken your character. So this was a good ass costume and I still show the picture too. It’s always like my go to fun fact for you know, work icebreakers and whatnot. And then of course, boy, like, okay, you need to see pictures, then. It was show the same pictures in there.

Jesse Lin 31:08
Maybe we’ll post some pictures!

Angela Lin 31:10
How about you?

Jesse Lin 31:14
Um, yep, my Halloween. Okay, so as I mentioned, I haven’t done anything too elaborate, because it’s a lot of work.

Angela Lin 31:22
Indeed.

Jesse Lin 31:24
And I don’t want to put too much time into it. So there will probably be something really cool in the future, but not quite so not quite yet. I think the most elaborate thing I’ve done is the Joker and I basically went and got like face paint and did like the craziest like crazy person application of the paint on my face, which is perfect because like my model or like vision of it was like Heath Ledger. And his like, makeup is basically like someone smeared it all over his face. So I was like, this was perfect. And it was pretty fun. It was like hand painting on my face. But I even then I didn’t realize how difficult it was because I was like, you had to black, white and red. Right? So I was like, wait, which one do I do first? And so I did eyes first. But then when I put the white on for the rest of the face, it’s smeared everywhere. It was a lot of trial and error. And the the makeup was fine, but it was like oil, so I couldn’t touch anything with my face. And I would like drink stuff and leave like makeup all over. But I did that and I got like green hairspray. And then the rest of my costume was like not specifically interesting. It was like kind of like the five minute Jared Leto version of Joker so it was like gangster dress but the makeup what’s what was important, and that’s my Instagram profile picture.

Angela Lin 32:59
Oh, yeah, that would do it. That’s why I remember it. So clearly. You see it every day. Yeah. No, I feel you. Because I’ve done the like candy skull, you know, Dia de los Muertos type makeup as well for previous costume. Yep. You can’t eat or drink anything. Or like accidentally scratch your eye.

Jesse Lin 33:22
I would I would. I think to get to that level of like makeup doing I would have someone do it for me. Like not not even like a professional but I would just be like, can someone else do this because like I can’t.

Angela Lin 33:34
Yeah, yeah, it takes a while. Cool. Well, that’s fun. Well wee hope everyone is channeling the spirit of Halloween in some way. I don’t know exactly what it’s gonna look like this year. It’s probably just…

Jesse Lin 33:48
…the partying at home socially distanced zoom.

Angela Lin 33:51
Yeah, for us. Yeah, maybe a six feet apart.

Jesse Lin 33:56
Throw candy at people out your window.

Angela Lin 33:58
I don’t feel like people are going to let their children accept strangers candies this year. You’re trying not to touch other people’s things.

Jesse Lin 34:09
True. I guess that’s it straight from the bag, though.

Angela Lin 34:14
Anyways, I hope you find a way to have fun this year and just be safe and but still have fun. And if you have if you have stories to tell us what we’d love, I’d love to hear yours. I’d love to see costume pictures for sure DMS post it tag us whatever. Also, because we told like, you know, culturally relevant like local stories that our parents told us if you have stories from your culture, or like your parents scared you growing up by telling you certain stories, we’d love to hear those. So definitely write us in at telluswhereyourefrom@gmail.com the you’re is Y-O-U-R-E. And as always, we will have a fresh new episode for you next week.