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Death is a process that shapes your life


Jesse Lin 0:16
This week, we’re going to talk about something that I think not a lot of people like to think about, but we have thought about. So this week we’re going to be talking about death. And to start off, we will want to revisit a topic that we brought up briefly in our last episode related to past life regression. Take it away.


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Angela Lin 0:39
Yeah, so for those who did not listen to last week’s episode, or don’t know what past life regression is, this is basically a technique where a hypnotist puts you in a trance, and then you’re able to remember your past lives. So last time I talked about this book that I I read that is like one of my favorite books, honestly, it’s called journey of souls by Michael Newton. And it’s written by him. It’s he is a hypnotherapist. And what struck me is that like he approaches it from like a skeptics point of view. So he like his intro, he talks about, like how he wasn’t particularly religious or believed in like, afterlife things very much and he like stumbled into past life regression by accident. He’s trained in hypnotizing people as part of just regular therapy. And I guess in one of his sessions, where he hypnotized one of his patients, they like accidentally regressed into one of his or her past lives. And I distinctly remember it was like super interesting because this patient was like, had been suffering from like a chronic pain in their life. Leg for like years and years and years and when they went to a bunch of doctors and specialists, the doctors like there’s literally nothing wrong with you like we took CAT scans and like nothing. We’re not seeing anything that could explain why this pain is here. There’s like chronic pains, it might be mental and that’s when they like or for them to see a therapist and whatnot. And so like that’s how this person ended up in Michael Newton’s office. And so he put them into a hypnotic trance just to like, try to get to the bottom of this pain. And that’s when this person accidentally, like regressed into a past life where it was like, they were someone from like, I don’t know the 1700s or 1800s or something and they got shot in the leg. And in like the exact spot that this person kept complaining that they had this like chronic pain. And so after discovering the like, source of the pain, Michael Newton was able to like help them erase the memory of or like ease the memory of this, this experience from the past life. And so when they came out of the trance, their pain was gone, because it was like it was sourced from like an experience from hundreds of years ago from like a whole different life.

Jesse Lin 3:21
That is extremely woowoo. So he like believes that they are that his patients are actually regressing to a past life. It’s not like a situation where he doesn’t believe but he thinks that the effects are significant enough that he wants to continue doing that regardless of whether or not the past life component of it is legitimate or not.

Angela Lin 3:47
I think it was enough that he got interested and digging deeper into the past life stuff. And then now he like specializes in past life regression, like he doesn’t do any other therapy anymore. He’s he only does this. And so that’s like a one off story, but his whole book, he’ll like give you this broad insight that is based off of like hundreds or thousands of cases. And then he gives you a transcript of like an actual patient session that like gives you more color and detail into that insight.

Jesse Lin 4:18
Actually, I’m curious, would you go do this if it was available to you?

Angela Lin 4:21
I don’t know. Because I don’t know if I’m ready to know that kind of stuff. I’ve always been one of those kinds of people that like, I’ve thought very often in my life about like, if one little thing had been different in my life, like, how much would that have impacted on anything else in my life? And so, this definitely follows into that thinking where if I were to go and learn about what my past lives were like, or what I’ve been struggling with, like, life after life after life and still haven’t nailed as like this eternal soul, I think it would probably change how I like go about my, my daily life and I’m like, not necessarily great way. So I don’t I don’t know if I would want to do that, would you?

Jesse Lin 5:07
I don’t think so either. I think for the same reason that I’m nervous about using hallucinogenic substances and things that are, like more intense from that perspective, because I’m worried about what kind of insights it’ll bring up. And from a lot, you know, and from a lot of the reports of people who are going on those trips, like some of those insights can be very, very life altering. And so I’m concerned that it would like alter my life in a way that I wouldn’t want. So I’m kind of the same thing like, firstly, I’m very skeptical of it, but secondly, I would also be very scared of what I would find right like, and also you just don’t want to find out that in your past life, you were like, a murderer or something like that. Like that would be like a terrible thing to like, find out about yourself.

Angela Lin 5:57
Yeah, but then you’re not a murderer. Now so you drew then you can see that you had progressed so much that you reincarnated into like a much better human.

Jesse Lin 6:09
In the book does he describe like how reincarnation works based off of the experiences with the patients?

Angela Lin 6:15
He talks about how the real and the eternal world is the spirit world that like, has existed forever and will continue to exist forever, like life on earth is just temporary and is like finite. And so when you die, your soul is released back to go back to this eternal world. And the purpose of each soul is essentially to like continue to better itself. With each reincarnation, you are going in with a purpose of like, these are my flaws, or these are my challenges that I am trying to work on in this upcoming life. So It’s just like an endless process of choosing to go back into human lives to work on these flaws.

Jesse Lin 7:09
And so in the typical reincarnation cycle, I feel like every time you’re reincarnated based off of your deeds, you’re supposed to move like upwards in the chain, right? You go from like, an insect to a dog to like a pony and then to like a poor human level, blah, blah. So in this like cycle, it isn’t like that. Right? You can be like, whatever depending on what you want to refine.

Angela Lin 7:31
Yeah, I think there’s some vagueness in what he found, like they kind of alluded to that there’s a possibility to reincarnate to lesser, like less developed beings than humans. But there wasn’t a sense of like, now you’re, like, tarnished and you’re not allowed to try anymore. I think the whole concept is that like everyone should try and continue to better themselves,

Jesse Lin 7:58
I guess to bring it back to the topic at hand, do these past life regressions like help people deal with death? Like did he do any sessions with people who are like end of life and like really struggling with that?

Angela Lin 8:09
I don’t think I read anything specifically about people with end of life. But since you brought up psychedelics earlier that has proven to help people who are close to death. So like cancer patients, they have been able to come to terms with the concept of death much more easily after those psychedelic experiences. And when you talk to those people, it’s because they have realized that they are part of something bigger, there’s crossover and that’s part of why I like really bought into this book because I was doing things drug therapy sessions and I had already had some of those experiences so they are able to not fear death because they know that this is a temporary body and they’re like everything is connected and we’re part of this bigger thing and so the idea of dying doesn’t scare them as much because then they know that they’re going back to this thing and that is like part of everything

Jesse Lin 8:57
You have done this like more intense hallucinogenic experiences. Did you confine any aspect of death? Like you still have a fear of death? How has that changed for you?

Angela Lin 9:07
I did confront death. There was actually a part of my ayahuasca experience where I was taken into like the underworld and I was like guided by like a bunch of demons and devils and ghosts and like scary shit. And it was scary to like be following them and to go into this hellscape essentially. But once I got there, it actually was just like calming place and there wasn’t anything scary there. I think I saw my soul just like a glowing orb there that I knew was my soul. I think it just like reaffirmed to me that death can be scary and the fear of dying can be scary, but like just remember who you really are. That was like a very revealing experience, but I have to keep reminding myself of that. So if I’m in a situation where I’m like, on the edge of a cliff, yeah, I’m going to be scared to like die doesn’t change. I think there’s a disconnect there. But how about you, is fear of dying something that like you’re constantly thinking about? What’s going on?

Jesse Lin 10:04
What I’m afraid of is like the absence of experience rather than pain or like loss of people or whatever. Because there’s no guarantee right? Like, once you pass, you could go to this realm that you’re talking about, or it could be something that’s more aligned with any of the religions that are currently being practiced right now, but you don’t know. So I definitely do have, I think, a healthy fear of dying, but I also don’t think that it impacts me as much as I think it does. It’s not like I curtail any things that are risky because of this.

Angela Lin 10:33
I don’t think I’m so much afraid of me dying as like, more recently, I have been pretty afraid of my parents dying. It’s a very real thing that’s like going to happen in the near future because they’re older. My brother’s seven years older than me. My mom had me when she was almost 40. So it’s pretty scary because you have to just like come to terms with reality. I think death is something that like no one wants to talk about. But in order to like first of all, prepare For the eventual that’s going to happen and like get your things in order from like a very logical sense, you do have to talk about it. And then from another sense, you have to acknowledge it so that you appreciate the time that you have left part of my like psychedelic experience when I was like thinking about my relationship with my parents and wanting to like men that more a big piece of it was thinking about their age, and like just how many years are left and a lot of regret about the years that have been lost because of not having great relationships with them prior. Yeah, I don’t think a lot about my own death. But I do think more frequently than I ever used to about theirs.

Jesse Lin 11:38
Dying and death is like not something people talk about. And even the entire process of like passing is quite complicated, and no one really explains what you’re supposed to do. How are you supposed to get a funeral plot, who arranges the services and like what happens if you die in your home? There’s a lot of big questions around that. So if you were to pass how would you like people to handle your passing?

Angela Lin 12:04
It’s kind of hard to say I feel like I am at the same time someone who likes attention because I’m a Leo and I like it’s part of my personality but at the same time I don’t like people making a big fuss about me. I have like this dual self here. And so when I think about death, I don’t really want to make it a big thing. I want people to pay their respects they want to pay because they you know, want to honor my life and the relationships we have. I don’t want it to become this like huge thing and like people to be just like so, so sad. And I haven’t thought about it very much. But I feel like I would probably prefer to be cremated versus buried because I feel like being buried and I’m just being facetious here but like, I feel like being buried it’s just for your vanity sake. What is the point of having your body in this like pretty case that like can’t then disintegrate into the earth, you’re just like taking up space. Versus like cremation or just dust so like someone could keep you on their mantle piece forever or they could spread your ashes somewhere and then you just like go back to the earth right? You’re not taking up space and like hurting the planet more. That’s part of my thoughts about it. And also from a practical standpoint, cremation is like a lot cheaper and like you take up less space, it’s just like a lot of things. I don’t need to be immortalized in death with like, fancy burial and like a coffin and all that shit.

Jesse Lin 13:31
Good to know. Let this be your last will and testament.

Angela Lin 13:35
Ramon?

Jesse Lin 13:38
Have you thought about it? I have. I think I’m in the same boat as you in the sense that I don’t want people to be like despairingly sad at the funeral. I would prefer a funeral be more of like a celebration of the person that I was and my people gathering to think about the good times that they had with me as opposed to like, be really sad. I really like the idea of like a New Orleans funeral where they have like the jazz band. It’s very like it’s kind of like a party for the person that’s passed. That’s kind of like at this point in my life what I think I would like when I pass and then in terms of like disposal of the body I don’t really know I don’t have a really opinion on that I feel like usually disposal of the body opinion is like more on the family because it’s like there’s a cost associated with it and then like, oh, if you get somebody ashes who’s gonna hang on to them, but I saw these like really interesting pod coffins. They’re meant to be like, buried under a tree and the coffin like will disintegrate over time so that you will basically be like, absorbed into the roots.

Angela Lin 14:39
So it fixes my issue with traditional coffins.

Jesse Lin 14:42
Yes, but I think that would be like a really cool way to do it.

Angela Lin 14:46
The cremation versus coffin thing though. I think it’s interesting because I think you’re right that a lot of it has to do with the family decision, but from like, because we’re always talking about East versus West, like looking at the contrast between the two cultures I do think it’s like very significantly skewed towards cremation in Asia. I don’t think anyone does coffin burials in Asia. I wonder if that is cultural thing in terms of having to do with spiritual rites and all that stuff and or if it’s just a space thing, like there’s not a space in Asia.

Jesse Lin 15:19
That’s what I was to give out to this space on the economics of it, because like, it’s expensive to bury someone like, well, you have to have the coffin you have to prepare the body, then somebody’s got to dig the hole, then you got to fill the hole versus cremation. You just like, hey, you go in an oven and there you go. Your parents have purchased plots for the purpose of placing ashes?

Angela Lin 15:41
I assume. So they’ve talked about cremation interests and their thoughts have also changed over time. I mean, they have to settle on something because like you said they did buy plots just like your parents bought plot, but like they used to talk about wanting to be brought back to Taiwan to be like, buried with their family plots, but I think they ended up buying the California plots because it’s like, just the reality is where they live most of their life and where it’s likely to happen.

Jesse Lin 16:09
Well, I think they’re also thinking about like, once they have passed, like how likely it is that we would visit them, you know, if they were buried in Taiwan, like once every few years, maybe.

Angela Lin 16:17
But also, if they were brought back to Taiwan, they would be buried with their families, and then everyone else in Taiwan would go visit them, and we would still go, just not as frequently.

Jesse Lin 16:27
Well, you guys are slightly different. Because there’s two of you, there’s you and your brother, but for my parents, it’s just me. I feel like that was part of their decision because I’m the only like a real descendant to visit though. The truth is, I don’t even know if we have like a family plot. And that might also be a reason why.

Angela Lin 16:42
Yeah, my dad has one his side of the family and they used to talk about he would be very there and then my mom would have to be buried there too, because women always follow the man. But yeah, that that has since changed because of this LA plot.

Jesse Lin 16:58
Have you talked to parents about what they want to do?

Angela Lin 17:01
Bro. They talk about it all the time.

Jesse Lin 17:03
They’re like preparing you.

Angela Lin 17:04
It’s part of why I think about it all the time. Yeah, they are preparing us, me and my brother. And like the first time they brought it up. I was like, I don’t want to hear this. Like I was so pissed off.

Jesse Lin 17:13
It is a little morbid.

Angela Lin 17:14
It’s super morbid. They brought it up a few years ago for the first time and I was like, you’re still young. They were younger than I think like early 60s or whatever. I’m like, you still have lots of life left. Like please stop talking about this with me because I was like, I don’t want to deal with this. This is sad. But like little by little they’ve been talking about it more my dad for end of life care. His thoughts are the same as my thoughts on end of life, which is he’s like, I don’t want to be a burden when I start deteriorating. Don’t take care of me pay someone to take care of me. And then when I’m at a point where I’m just like, useless and like a vegetable, essentially, if that were to ever happen, just pull the plug like I don’t want to be a burden on anyone. And I have similar thoughts but I’ll add a like different layer which is I don’t want to be a burden to anyone but I also have like selfish thoughts when I think about that, which is like if I’m a vegetable, I am not enjoying life anymore. What is the point of me living just to breathe through tubes and to like not be able to interact with anyone and like say anything to the people I love or like do anything that I want to do just to like stay alive. So my thought is like, as soon as I’m not healthy, and I’m just like miserable, just fucking kill me like I’m over it.

Jesse Lin 18:30
Well, you can’t do that here. No one will help you with that here. But maybe if you move to like Norway or something where they have like assisted suicide. Yeah, I don’t think my parents have really talked about it in that level of specificity but they’re also not as old as your parents. They have mentioned like trying to retire in one of those live by yourself but assisted nursing is available kind of situations like Leisure World and Laguna Hills. Laguna Hills is basically one large retirement community and there’s a very coveted retirement home area called leisure something leisure hills, I don’t know, you buy basically like a share and you can live there or until you pass and there’s just like assisted care people there. So you’re not like in a nursing home in the sense where you don’t have any autonomy but you do have the security of like somebody being there to help you. But yeah, that’s what they’ve mostly talked about. They haven’t really said anything about what happens if they’re like really sick and can’t live, you know, full life, but I imagine it would be very much to say we’re just like, pull the plug. I feel like we all very Asian people are very practical about these things where it’s like, you know, if I’m not enjoying my life, and I’m gonna be like, I see a huge burden on you. You might as well just, you know, let it go. And we’ll see you another day. I haven’t really thought about it for myself. Personally, I think it’s probably the same as you but I would just want to have you know, somebody really smart certify that I’m actually like, dead dead before they pull the plug. That’s like one of my greatest fears related to dying is that I’m just like, locked in and I’m not actually dead. I can still like think and they’re like, okay, like goodbye. Yeah, if I’m like fully vegetable, and like not aware. Yeah, I think you could just pull it.

Angela Lin 20:06
Oh, no, that’s different for me if I can’t move my body, but I can still think I don’t want to live.

Jesse Lin 20:13
I mean, I’m also hoping that that by the time that this decision has to be made, there’ll be like medical miracle to like replace my body or something like that.

Angela Lin 20:21
Totally Westworld will have come to life and we can just become robots. I don’t know.

Jesse Lin 20:26
No, I don’t I don’t necessarily want the plug pulled. If I’m still like, cognizant of stuff.

Angela Lin 20:32
I just, I only want to be alive when I can enjoy life.

Jesse Lin 20:36
I think you can still enjoy life without full mobility. Stephen Hawking enjoy his life.

Angela Lin 20:41
I know, I thought about him immediately when I said that, but I also am like, am I gonna have a dedication to learn how to like re wire everything to communicate with people like he does some crazy shit with his eye movements to be able to like speak, and like do other shit and I just I don’t know

Jesse Lin 20:59
Have you in all this started any estate planning?

Angela Lin 21:04
Why I have nothing to plan I don’t own anything like what do you own thing? What do you have to plan like what is this?

Jesse Lin 21:12
I mean I don’t personally have anything I don’t have a will or anything but with all my money stuff I have like clear beneficiaries.

Angela Lin 21:19
Oh yeah.

Jesse Lin 21:20
Cuz like in the situation of your untimely demise The last thing you want to do is to have to like fight people for the money that should go to your family.

Angela Lin 21:30
Yeah, my like, few thousand dollars I own I guess.

Jesse Lin 21:34
Well you have like retirement savings and stuff, right?

Angela Lin 21:36
Yeah, that’s true. That’s true.

Jesse Lin 21:38
I think my parents recently told me that they actually started to like do their will and stuff.

Angela Lin 21:43
I hate talking about it, but I think it makes sense for our parents age. One of the infuriating things my dad keeps doing though, is when he had this family meeting about like their eventual departure. He was like, verbally discussing all of his assets so we knew they existed. And we’re like, you’re doing like write this down, right? Like in a will. And he was like, no. And we’re like, are you fucking kidding me? And he’s like, No, I’m not writing any of this down. And we’re like, Why? Why would you make this like harder for us? And he’s like, you’re just gonna go to China and Taiwan. They’re gonna help you out. You’re gonna tell them you own this thing, and then they’ll help you figure it out. I’m like, this sounds terrible. Why would you?

Jesse Lin 22:21
Is that how it works?

Angela Lin 22:23
No, it’s not, it’s so infuriating. I don’t know. He just he won’t give us written shit, which is like super unhelpful. Because I’m like, you know, when neither of our Chinese is good enough to like, know who to contact and like…

Jesse Lin 22:35
…but you can’t even claim that without…

Angela Lin 22:37
Exactly I’m like, how am I gonna prove that this is a you own it. It’s like, you’re just gonna, you’re my daughter there. It’s my name. I’m like, oh my god.

Jesse Lin 22:48
Well I’m thankful to say that I think my parents actually are going to write something down.

Angela Lin 22:53
Well, that’s when our parents die, which is woof. But have you ever thought about the future of when we’re old and what space future we’re gonna live in at that point, like, have you ever thought about what it’s going to be like in the world when you die?

Jesse Lin 23:11
I think it will be like technologically very, very different. What that will look like I have no idea. But I think it will be like a dramatically different, but I don’t know if that will change anything about how I want to pass though. What about you?

Angela Lin 23:26
I agree. I don’t think any technological change would affect my thinking on like, I don’t want to be a burden. Just cremate me pull the plug, like all that shit. But I think one thing that’s interesting when I think about longevity, that is something that has come up a lot. And like Ramon is kind of obsessed with increasing our longevity so that we can like enjoy life for as long as we can…

Jesse Lin 23:52
With life extension?

Angela Lin 23:53
…not life extension, like you’re going to live to 150 but like most people don’t live to as old as humans are capable of living to, because they ruin their lives with like the diet and like bad habits and shit. So we’re like taking supplements and stuff that are supposed to like help with longevity and whatever. So it doesn’t affect my thinking on how I want to pass. But I do think the like advances in science with the ability to like improve your longevity, I think that will affect when we become closer to end of life as compared to our parents. Like I think we’ll probably live much longer than our parents lived and like be healthier and more active than they were at similar ages, which is gonna be something like totally different.

Jesse Lin 24:37
I think I agree with you. And that’s probably the only thing that I would add is that I feel like given how things have changed so rapidly once we get to what we would consider like natural end of life, thinking about it now like maybe like 80-85 I think we’ll have more of a choice as to whether or not we want our lives to continue forward or if we want to pull the plug because of all of the life extension and like longevity things being researched right now. Yeah, who knows, maybe you’ll get to 85. And you can like die or you can watch everything replaced and live like another 15 years, it will present a choice, right? Because then you can decide truly like if you want to pass or if you want to live more years,

Angela Lin 25:16
That topic of like how long humans are going to live and our ability to live longer now and like our continued ability to live longer than previous generations is something that Ramon and I have talked about and it’s a really like interesting topic because you can look at it either from like a you as an individual standpoint, where you’re like, of course, I want to maximize my longevity and how many good years I have left on this earth or you can look at it from like a community standpoint where it’s like the more people who live longer, the more of a burden we have on society to like take care of these old people. And also how many years can you fund your life after retirement because retirement money is based have projected like number of years, you’re going to continue living after you retire. So if you keep living way beyond that you might have no money left.

Jesse Lin 26:08
Honestly, I haven’t even thought about that. I mean, there are definitely a ton of huge questions around that. I think for me specifically around the like morality of it, aside from all those things you mentioned, living longer also means that you use up more resources on the earth for that should have been saved for other people. It also probably will create like a huge class divide for those people who can afford to do that. And I think there will be a lot of interesting questions about that when we’re at that age where we’re like, gonna decide what we’re going to do. So you know, don’t forget to iMessage me your decision when you’re like 85

Angela Lin 26:44
Um, iMessage won’t even exist so I’ll just like send a telepathic message.

Jesse Lin 26:51
Oh, do you want that? I don’t think you want that. I’ll be like Angela sending you a million things all the time.

Angela Lin 26:58
No Block, block block. Well, so big question when you die? Do you think you’ll feel fulfilled when you’re on your deathbed?

Jesse Lin 27:06
I haven’t really thought about that. But I have thought about like, what if I just randomly passed now, you know, like, would I feel complete would I feel like I’ve accomplished all the things that I’ve wanted to, I think the answer to that is like, no, I don’t feel complete right now. But I feel like if I did pass, I wouldn’t be like mad about it. You know, like, I’ve found love with people. I’ve met really great friends. I’ve done a pretty good job with my job. I feel like I think when I guess the age, I’m going to pass I will feel fulfilled in the sense that I probably will feel like I have seen everything and done everything. Is that like the fulfillment that people are thinking of when they think of like, am I fulfilled at that in the life like you’re thinking about, like, most people are thinking about like, oh, you know, I felt like I’ve left like this legacy. I think I’ll just be fulfilled in the sense that I’ve experienced many, many things that I’ve found it enjoyable and fun and pleasurable and that’s enough for me

Angela Lin 28:04
Fulfillment that’s objective you don’t need to go by what other people think fulfillment is. Those things like legacy and leaving behind an empire whenever like those are vanity things. That’s just like someone’s idea fulfillment is that it feeds there prideful image of like, you know leaving behind that kind of legacy but at the end of the day, it is like the love that you have and the experiences that you’ve had that make up what a life was. So I don’t think you should feel anything about like not being obsessed with leaving behind a legacy or any other dumb thing that.

Jesse Lin 28:44
I just mentioned it because I feel like if you had asked me like my early 20s I’m like, Yes, I want to die like Bill Gates in my fortune, Hugh Hefner in my surroundings, like that kind of situation where now I’m kind of like, you know, I just want to like enjoy what I can enjoy and I feel like if I can maximize that by the time that I’m like super old, I’ll probably I’m okay with moving on. Like I’ve done everything that I plan on doing. What about you?

Angela Lin 29:06
I agree, I think I’m also focused on just making sure that my life was full of the experiences that I wanted to have. And I think I’ve done a good job thus far of like saying yes to the things that would have given me those kinds of experiences thus far that I’ve been presented with. I think I’m actively figuring out how to like free up more of my life for personal fulfillment, like sooner. So we talked about personal finance last week, right through investing and like, I’m continuing to learn more about that so that I can hopefully retire earlier so that I have more of my good years to like, do the shit I want and to not feel like I have regrets later on.

Jesse Lin 30:20
This week’s fortune cookie is also going to be related to death but kind of funny. So we wanted to talk about the best and worst ways that we would want to die. So I will go first. I think the worst way to die is to actually not be dead and be aware that you’re not dead and to have someone pull the plug – I don’t want that, that’s bad. Like a good way to die…I’m gonna say I’m pretty colored, but I would probably drop some kind of substance and just like peace out guys. That seems like a pretty decent way to die. Right?

Angela Lin 31:01
I mean, you’re choosing it. Yeah,

Jesse Lin 31:02
Yeah, you’re choosing it. You’re having like, hopefully a really great adventure and then you just pass.

Angela Lin 31:09
I see okay, okay. My worst way to die I have always been torn between two. I’m torn between drowning and burning alive in a fire. The thing in common is that they’re very slow deaths in a drowning one maybe theoretically like timewise it’s fast but it will feel like forever and then burning is like fucking awful because people will have like full body burns and shit that like still live right so like it takes a lot to die. Best way to die. I don’t know why you didn’t just say this dying in your sleep. That’s my ideal way to die. I don’t even know what happened. Like just I’m sleeping and I’m old and I just die like, great.

Angela Lin 31:52
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